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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I find it “refreshing” that the President placed the fact that Americans can profit from this situation front and center in his speech.

That’s a bold statement.  It’s true, but in the past that hasn’t been a central and public message.

To be clear, I don’t like the fact that it’s true.

& for all those that don’t see the parallel between what Israel has done in Palestine and what Putin is doing in Ukraine should read this piece:  https://www.wbir.com/amp/article/news/nation-world/israel-ends-west-bank-raid-palestinians-grapple-with-destruction/507-d863dadb-0c97-47a0-bd26-be1df61577ca

NPR has reported other stories as well that seem well researched with on the ground reporting.  I was just listening to a piece, yesterday, which I can’t find online now or I would share, with several first hand interviews backed up by sourced facts and figures that were very compelling.  Can I be sure it’s not all lies? No - but the steady stream of reported atrocities builds a pattern.

The attack on Israel and hostage taking is horrific.  Israel behavior in the region created a pressure cooker situation which - in retrospect - is not surprising that it burst.  Both statements can be true at the same time.  And I am not antisemitic (my father’s side of the family is Jewish Ukrainian who left Ukraine during the early 1900s bc of Jewish persecution). And I’m not even anti - Israel (I understand that the holocaust made clear that Jewish people need a homeland)   But, certainly the current situation is horrible for the entire region.  And I can’t see how the US pouring in military support will help the people who live there.

FWIW, my Dad swears that his Grandparents (the ones that cane to NYC from Ukraine) saw / called themselves Russian - not Ukrainian.   They did not feel Ukrainian bc of the persecution they had faced there.  History is complicated and I know I’m the US we see Russian’s invasion of Ukraine as their invasion of a sovereign nation, but this can be debatable.  I have to get off my soapbox and to work so I don’t have time to fully read, but I think this blog might do a good job in laying out a complex history:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/07/01/there-is-no-ukraine-fact-checking-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/

The world is a complicated place and we simply cannot sum things up simplistically.  [/quote]

The average American taxpayer does not benefit by funding a death industry for the benefit of a few. Only those in the DC bubble don't understand how damaging that statement is to American image, American Businesses, American lives and American wallets.[/quote]

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