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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My understanding is they are there largely because the Israeli government has encouraged and incentivized it.   [/quote]

Yes.  This is the cause of conflict

We need to stop all Aid to Israel and Egypt.

I am 60 year old white man in US and I detest what Israel has done.

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This is your takeaway after terrorists slaughtered a bunch of Israeli families?

Simp for hamas as hard as you want-- it won't win any mercy from them. They will kill you all the same for being American, whether you agree with them or not. And they will kill Palestinians, or put them in danger to further their cause. I invite you to go live over in the middle east for a while (as I did) and figure it out- these thugs do not represent the Muslim culture and bending to them doesn't save you, the Israelis, or the Palestinians.  I'm not even a man, and I need you to man up. Bending to murderers is a form of evil.  [/quote]

DP. Of course Hamas is evil. No one is denying it. They need to be eradicated. 
However all of Israel is basically living on the edge. Plopping a country in the middle of not so friendly neighbors and expelling those that don’t belong is a recipe for disaster. 
Even if it’s justified by what supposedly happened in Biblical times.
The whole country drank the koolaid of the “but it’s the holy land!” and now here we are.
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Hindsight is always useful but hindsight has to factor in the reality of post WWII and the realization that the civilized Europe saw the near extermination of its Jewish population. One can fantasize that a slice of Canada was set aside for a new Jewish state. But one also has to realize that there was already a growing Jewish population in Palestine (in pre Israel days people used to taunt Jews by chanting "go back to Palestine!" And now they're told to leave Palestine! Can't the world ever make up its mind?!) Which in turn was greatly enlarged by the expulsion of Jews from all across the Middle East and North Africa, countries where they had lived peacefully for centuries, by the post-colonial Arab governments. WWYD. Tell Jews to forever be nomads moving to a new country every few centuries?

I would gladly welcome every Israeli to the United States, the one other country that is perhaps the most safe place for Jews in the world. But a decision was made in the late 1940s and we can't undo it. Nor can we tell Jews they can't have a country of their own, especially not these days. [/quote]

Of course they should have their own country. The problem was that they wanted it to be in Palestine (and the western world encouraged the sentiment). It’s almost like Europe and the US didn’t want the Jewish people? Hmmmm
Of course they should have also stayed in Palestine but it shouldn’t have become a Jewish state. It was doing relatively well under the British mandate; the mandate should have stayed with UN or a level headed European country or US or Canada
Palestine is a hotbed and no local forces could rule it with the necessary level headedness [/quote]

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