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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Bottom 10% at TJ will be top 10% at Langley and McLean etc.[/quote]

Bottom 10% at TJ get a B or C in Calc AB, and that's about it with math.  Top 10% at Langley and McLean get an A in Calc BC, and follow it up with Multi Variable, and Linear Alegbra[/quote]

More so now with the essay based admission.  Bottom 10% leave after freshman, the next bottom 10% write five line essays and that's about it[/quote]

Just the opposite. The bottom 10% was worse when people were only getting in because they bought the test answers. At least now it's based on merit.[/quote]

bought test answers from where? I read conspiracy theories being floated here.  But in a real world, buyers can only exist when there is both a seller and a product present in the transaction. Who is the seller? Do they have a site where they sell this product? [/quote]

It was the place that shall not be named.  Continue to disbelieve what happened.  That way you can continue to misunderstand one of the reasons for the admissions change (there were others too). [/quote]

Let me get this. There was a place that cant be named, that sold a product that cant be mentioned, at a location that cannot be disclosed, that caused the admission change?[/quote]

*chuckles* The place is called Curie Learning Centers.

The product is/was their flagship TJ prep course that featured, among many other things, a question bank for the secured Quant-Q exam that was inappropriately derived from their previous students reporting back on the questions they'd seen when they took the exam. While Curie didn't do anything illegal, what they did was unethical, as they used materials given to them by students who had signed an agreement not to disclose any materials from the Quant-Q. It's been confirmed many times by TJ students who attended Curie and the veracity of the story is no longer up for debate among serious people. The flagship course ran about $5,000 per student (not the $20K that has been mentioned here before) and ran for a 16-month period beginning for most students at the star of their 7th grade year and running up through the administration of the Student Information Sheet in January of 8th grade.

Curie has multiple locations in Loudoun and western Fairfax Counties.

To say that the Curie matter "caused" the admissions changes is perhaps not quite appropriate, but it absolutely highlighted the need for reform because of the program's success in securing admission to TJ and the growth of its claims year over year.

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And before anyone comes at me with the snarky "look, another advertisement for Curie" nonsense, understand this:

I don't care at all how much money Dr. R is able to bilk off of insecure families - I only care that the families are not rewarded in admissions processes for having the money to burn.[/quote]
Ok that's fine, but I have to wonder why would this matter so much, if each years Quant-Q questions are different... oh wait... are you saying FCPS doesn't bother to change the questions to an exam that thousands of kids took every year? That's clearly plain stupid.

I don't see this as any different than what other prep companies have done.. which is to falsely register folks to take the exam and report back the question, or at a minimum find out as much information as they can from past tests. But at least college board knows this is happening and changes the questions.[/quote]

So you admit that it's unethical but are dinging FCPS for dropping the test after students obtained the test questions?  Are you volunteering to write more test questions for the test maker?  Didn't think so.  The result is this new admissions process that doesn't use the test.  You should be happy to hear that FCPS fixed the problem.[/quote]

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