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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a result of the woke schools with large endowments filling their classes with URMs, so state schools are targeting those that have been displaced from their usual destinations, who just happen to be predominantly white UMC candidates.  [/quote]

There aren’t enough urms in t20s to shift hundreds of  thousand kids to oos flagships

The author has it right

“Above average” kids got dropped and rightly so

Even if urms went to 0, the above average kid getting into vandy or Dartmouth in 1990 isn’t getting in today 
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Yes, math is hard but take a minute to do it and you will see the shift. Is it huge when you look at the top 20, no because there are so few seats, but it i present.  Using the USNNWR top 20 and ties from last year there are about 50K freshman seats.  That will change slightly as different size schools move in and out of the top 20 but from those schools CDS data there were 14,687 URMs and 12,096 Asians enrolled.

So URMs make up about  29.5% of the freshman population and Asians about 24% of the freshman population, leaving 46.5% for whites and unidentified.  So, yes white kids are being shifted to state flagships, hundreds of thousands no, but thousands.   So, some exceptional kids are losing seats as well as many above average kids.  But in the end it only matters if it is your kid.[/quote]

[b]Why are you adding urms and Asians in one bucket when they are kept separate by admissions? [/b]

The pp talked about urm effect

Asians outcompeting above average white kids rightly is pushing non-impressive white kids to oos publics [/quote]

Not putting into the same bucket.  29.5% URM (Hispanic, Black, Native American, Alaska native).  [b]24% are Asian, the over represented minority[/b].

So 53.5% of student population are minorities.   Since minorities represent about 1/3 of the population they are over represented by about 20%.   While whites who represent about 2/3 of the US population are underrepresented by about 20%.

Make of it what you will, those are the statistics.  So more white kids are going out of state, to other state flagships.  [/quote]

Jews are 2% of the population and used to be 30-40% of the Ivy League and are now around 20% of the Ivy League.

Do you consider Jews as also being overrepresented?

Overrepresented isn’t the right term if the applicant pool from those groups is stronger to begin with.

If anything urms are overrepresented in relation to the strength of their pool.

The scotus case proved that Asians are underrepresented.

Jews are correctly represented probably because they have the highest iq’s so you would expect 20-30% of t10s to be Jewish

You are using “overrepresented” and “underrepresented” in crude terms without any depth of thought 
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