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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's the culture, not the school. Being Catholic means accepting and practicing social norms which are currently seen as optional at best by many other children (and adults) today. Families with many connections who are out and about with other families, at church, doing sports, etc. are more likely to produce more socially competent children. The lack of respect and even disdain for traditional social interactions among the urban intellectual elite today (dressing well, making conversation, eye contact, being polite to elders, attending events and ceremonies) is really hurting a large cohort of kids today; Catholics have the social infrastructure to provide a bulwark against some of this. Same goes for Jews, by the way.[/quote]

You are describing a minority of Catholics.  You probably would consider my large Catholic parish in Upper NW to be no better than the heathens you deride.

Don't think there aren't conservative hierarchies in Catholicism...my mother would often make derisive remarks about various "liberal" Catholic churches.  [/quote]

Maybe it's fewer than it was in the 1970s, but I doubt it's a minority of practicing Catholic families. I also think "liberal" parishes are still very normative. I didn't say anything about faith; I was making an argument about cultural norms being positive--literally any norms at all other than "anything goes". Your "heathen" comment is a strawman. [/quote]

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