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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone surprised by Denison’s rise? Ohio liberal arts schools used to be Oberlin, Kenyon, Denison, Wooster in that order. Now it seems better than Oberlin, and equal to Kenyon, if not better in a certain way. Its acceptance rate has gone down a lot while many schools ranked around 40 seem to be plateauing. Formally easy acceptance at our school, now there are rejections. What are they doing right compared to other LACs that are good but not “elite”. Also not a booster, visited once and personally found it too preppy. But clearly they’re doing something right.[/quote] I think accreditation groups should push most schools to get their acceptance rates over 25 percent. I used to think I’d be active in my alma mater’s alumni group. But then an admissions person came and talked to us about trying to attract more applications, so it could reject a lot more kids with perfect stats and get the acceptance rate below 20 percent. It hit me then that this is an insane, cruel system, and I gave up on the alumni group. Maybe Harvard needs to have an acceptance rate below 10 percent, because all kind of kids want that lottery ticket. But it’s nuts for Rice, Emory, WUSTL or Bowdoin to have very low acceptance rates. Most kids have ever heard of those schools till they got into the college application process. They’re applying because of marketing, not because they’ve always dreamed of going to Rice. The colleges are leading many of those kids on and tricking them into applying just to reject them. Rice and WUSTL are wonderful, for example, but there’s no reason for them to attract a lot of doomed applicants. They ought to figure out how to give kids a better sense of their chances, and they and similar schools should figure out how to coordinate admissions better, to reduce the need for great kids to apply to 20 schools to have a reasonable chance to get into one solid school. If you have an unweighted GPA of 3.8 or higher in tough subjects, SATs over 1450 or the equivalent, reasonable activities and parents willing to pay the FAFSA expected family contribution, the T15 through through T50 schools ought to have a system like the UK UCAS system that pretty much guarantees you’ll get into one of those schools without jumping through insane hoops. [/quote] The thing is, they aren’t really rejecting that many kids with those strong credentials, just the ones who seem like they have no intention of attending. [/quote]
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