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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It doesn't need to be several months salary. I really don't know why people buy into that. Very smart marketing I guess.

But I do think rings are a sweet tradition, and they are a gift. And when you give a gift, you shouldn't be cheap about it. Everyone has a different idea of what is a cheap engagement ring, but I've seen a lot of men who make above-medial salaries say 50 dollars is perfectly fine. They get up in arms about capitalism, for the first time ever, when their fiancees complain. Give me a break. (Mine cost 1K, I picked it out, I think it's lovely)[/quote]

It’s great for the woman not the man and it is not a gift.[/quote]

NP. "Not a gift"? So it's quid pro quo, you expect something in return? I get it. You're a man, you're pi**ed that you shelled out for a ring and didn't get exactly what you want (probably ideal sex, on demand, every time) from your wife. Well, the "it's not a gift" attitude and the view of marriage as a transaction is why you aren't getting what you wanted....

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It's not a gift. It's demanded by the woman, in exchange for the marriage. It's not even about the quality of the ring, it's about the price  (hence the opposition to higher quality lab diamonds or cost effective alternate gems).

90% Women aren't buying a "gift"  like this for their fiance. [/quote]

What do you means it’s not gift? It is not a demand. My wife didn’t demand an engagement ring.  She didn’t even get one until the day before we got married and it was a surprise gift.

Why the negative outlook? [/quote]

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