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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is utterly exhausting.

So, the expectation now is I need to privately enroll my child in a class BEFORE they take the class to be successful in the class?

I was pretty against Alg. 1 in 7th grade with my 6th grader, but this whole approach is so frustrating. It all mimics my kid's experience in AAP -- the teachers expect these kids to have learned whatever concepts that were being taught for the first time "before" so class is actually just a quick review and assessment. and if they haven't, it's up to the student (i.e. their parents) to fill in the gaps.[/quote]

Your frustration is understandable. What you described isn't education.[/quote]

Frankly (PP here), this is why I find AAP, as a whole, to be utter trash. It's been incredibly disappointing to see how much the "extension" is really just blowing through topics and running assessments quickly. Even the whole "mascot time" has been a joke. My child last year struggled in class and was buried in work and her teacher was not just useless, he went out of his way to make her feel like an idiot with those "this isn't hard" and "you're in AAP, you should be smart."

I spent thousands on private tutoring where she learned 5th and 6th grade math, she got a "perfect" SOL score and on paper is doing fine. But this isn't how it's supposed to work. She was literally failing absent my own intervention as a parent. And it just keeps going?

Because in AAP in FCPS, math instruction is basically a quick demo, a worksheet, and then assessment. Rinse, repeat.

Compared to my other general education child (who oddly has a stronger math grasp due to actually being taught math), there is zero tier 1 interventions, zero small group instruction, and zero support if your child doesn't automatically "get" the topic. It's just assess and move on.

And then the kids stuggle. Either in Alg. 1 honors or higher math or in their freshman classes where they are (again) retaking classes they already took.

It's all just so, so frustrating.[/quote]

Honestly, maybe AAP wasn’t the right fit for your child.[/quote]

What's incredible is that this is the take away. It's that my child (who by the way had incredibly 150 quant cogat and a 140 verbal) shouldn't be in AAP. I didn't refer my kid.

There is never, ever a question of maybe this AAP program, particularly the math -- which frankly is the only meaningful difference I can see -- is problematic and needs to be changed. [/quote]

From what I have seen on this forum, center schools vary.  The more competitive center schools seem to have more of the kids-already-know-the-stuff style of teaching while centers that are less competitive/prestigious/high SES do more "actual teaching" to students who are learning things for the first time in class.  (Caveat: the teaching-through-quizzes/exit tickets/tests style of teaching seems to come from teaching colleges and is something that new teachers do more than older teachers do.)  Changing the admissions for TJ may help with this - but it might take a few years to change at the elementary school level.  [/quote]
I agree with this. OP, if for example, you're at a place such as Longfellow where a very accelerated TJ hopeful peer group is very typical, algebra will likely be much less watered down than at other places. The teacher will move faster and challenge more when they see that many or most of the kids already know some algebra via outside enrichment. In contrast, the same alg1 honors class for 7th graders at another school could be orders of magnitude more watered down.[/quote]

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