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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What an embarrassment. 9/10 HS students can't even meet the baseline math expectations? [/quote]

This is not true. My 10th grader didn’t take PARCC because he is was in AP stats. and got a 5 on his AP test. There are plenty of kids who are advanced in math and don’t take PARCC. Your numbers are wrong.[/quote]

Thinking that perhaps you could learn a thing or two from your 10th grader who took AP stats.[/quote]

Wow so rude. Look at the PARCC spreadsheets on the OSSE website and you'll see that lots of kids don't take any math PARCC test at all. They only test certain classes. I wish we had more comprehensive data and I'm sad that we don't, but it's simply not true that 9/10 kids are failing math. It's more like 6/10.[/quote]

But the attrition level at highschool also may have to do with kids simply not showing up for school. I don't make assumptions that it's just the smart kids dropping PARCC in highschool.

Nonetheless, looking at the trajectory from elemetary school and middle school, it's probably closer to 8/10 or worse. It middle school, it's already 8/10 score 3 or below with most kids taking the test.[/quote]

Well yes, teenagers can be like that. But really, it's not an assumption that PARCC only tests Algebra I, Algebra II, and Geometry. That is just how it is. It's not an assumption. You can look at the OSSE spreadsheet if you want to see precisely how many and what grade level kids took each test. Also, control for grade level. If a 9th grader, say, took Algebra I in 8th grade, so takes Algebra II in 9th but has an off day and only gets a 3, that's not great, but it's also not the case that they're below their grade level. They would only be below grade level if they got a 3 in Algebra I, not Algebra II. See?

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Nonetheless, the below grade level results are 8/10 in middle school, so where the PP gets to 6/10 on grade level in highschool, nope don't buy that whatsoever. It's likely the same optimistically or worse, realistically, if test participation rates were as high as they are in lower grades.[/quote]

Again, like I said, students can take the PARCC for a class higher than their grade level. So someone can do not-great on the PARCC test that they take and still be above their actual grade level. [b]I made up the 6/10 thing as an estimate, and I don't expect anyone to believe it or not believe it, but do try to understand that the middle school PARCC is also complex to interpret[/b]. [/quote]

Seriously?  You just pulled "the 6/10 thing" from your a**?  You are just sounding more and more uninformed.

Please have your 10th grader do an intervention and explain statistics to you.

For one thing, why do you assume that better students are more likely not to take the PARCC exam than poor students?  Bad students are often truants.  They are a lot more likely to miss the PARCC exam.

The PARCC data is a lot better than any other data that we have, and it definitely shows that DC schools are generally performing poorly.
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NP.  PP above is in complete denial of how bad kids in DCPS are performing in high school.  Whoever relayed the data about middle school is correct and high school, it’s going to be worst.

Saying a few smart kids are not taking it to justify how poorly the kids in DCPS are performing is just enabling the status quo and giv8ng our leaders a pass when they need to be more accountable.[/quote]

THIS![/quote]

It's not just a few smart kids, it's almost two entire grades. Nobody's denying that performance is poor. Do you think we data nerds like the PARCC? We hate it, because there's so little data and it's so easily misinterpreted![/quote]

A previous PP insinuated that the highschool scores aren't that bad when someone commented about 9/10 kids being below grade level, and said it's probably not that bad, probably 6/10 basically because of on/above grade level kids not being a part of the PARCC math in highschool. The lack of accounting for multiple other factors (e.g. truancy which is a significant issue in highschool) didn't make sense along with inventing an arbitrary number that implied overall DC highschool kids are somehow magically better at math in highschool than in middle school.

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Well, you'd also have to account for kids dropping out of school entirely and they are more likely to be low performers. And, is a 12th grader finally passing Algebra I really on "grade level"? Truancy is just the one factor. 6/10 was a wild guess that didn't pan out, it's probably 8/10 or 7.5/10. [/quote]

Yes, exactly. So we can stop debating.[/quote]

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