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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've seen OP's issue in my own family.  In the 80's, my family was middle of the road.  My dad was a lifelong Republican and NRA member, my mom was a conservative pro-life Dem.  Both have college science degrees -- my dad has a masters.  They are both now solid D, in a so-called purple state, because they are just appalled at the Republican science denial and lies.  They aren't buying into all the D rhetoric and wouldn't have the slightest clue what "intersectionality" or any of those right wing buzz words are --- but the actual D policies are pretty moderate, whereas the Rs are basically science-deniers who seem to rejoin in cruelty at this point.

I have a sibling who is a hard-core extreme conservative with a PhD in the hard sciences (worked for industry for decades)--he'll never vote D, but even he is disgusted by the current crop of R.  He's the kind of R that is very pro-immigration because he thinks they are the only ones willing to do the low-paid work, so hates the Trumpian close the border and defund INS crap.  I think he still votes R because it's reflexive for him, but he mocks the dumb R politicians openly.

I actually feel bad for the R party -- they're in a toxic relationship and can't quite figure out how to get out.  I have a bunch of scientist relatives that are pro-gun and in favor of low taxes and moderate social policies -- they would totally be convinced to swing R if only the R's could get free of their current rock-hardplace of Trump and the evangelicals.   It's going to be like that abused wife that looks up and suddenly realizes that she's lost all her real friends because of her abuser, and that she doesn't even really know who she is anymore.  That's the GOP elephant at this point.[/quote]

So all you have is a bunch of personal anecdotes that don't apply to anyone else?  Wasn't one of your liberal friends just lecturing us that anecdotes =/= data?  God, you people are such hypocrites it's (almost) funny.[/quote]

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