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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes. [/quote]

it is a class issue.  The sort who disdains "stirvers" are the next generation of the old money who realize they did not achieve nearly what the "stivers" achieved.  Because they were born on third base and never had to work that hard, and will always wonder if they could have made it without such a boost.  So the one thing they can horde over a striver is access to whatever social or professional society they control.  But that's the inconsistency...somehow "striving" to get into the upper tier is gauche while "striving" to stay there (or keep others out) is not.  It's like Tom Wambsgans - he wanted in, and was ridiculed for it, but the moronic Roy offspring were working as hard as they could to stay where they were born.  Same, same.

That said, the other issue I see, as a striver, is a code of conduct that the old money has and that the strivers usually do not have.  The unwritten rules, the double standards and weird behaviors that one gets from growing up with money.  No one speaks directly or honestly, no one likes to answer tough questions, no one seems comfotable "proving" themselves, unless it is on a golf course, or paddle tennis court, or some other weird rich [b]passtime[/b].  Strivers made their bones challenging the norms, so they're a square peg.    And there is a casualness to it, no one seems to be worried or in a hurry because they're already a part of the club, and most strivers aren't built that way (because if they sat back and didn't worry about achieving, they'd still be grinding it out in some flyover city).  And I think the old money hates that more than the concept of someone achieving more than they did.

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Definitely no chip on the shoulder there.

And it is 'pastime'.[/quote]

I absolutely have a chip.  It's what keeps me sharp and a step ahead of the soft old money navel gazers who envy my ability to succeed in any situation.  I want to be a part of their club simply to say I gained entry.

And thanks for spell-checking my work, Timmy.  Here's a quarter for the effort.[/quote]

Lol. You certainly do have a chip. Doubt you are ahead of anyone, and if you gain entry to any exclusive clubs I want a front row ticket to mess you make of it given the personality and lack of social skills on display here...[/quote]

I am already in their clubs.  I have the social skills.  That's the point.  I didn't come from that world but worked hard and figuired out the game.  90% of the others in the club were born with it.  Box checked, on to the next success suckers.  [/quote]

What's "next success" to you?  What other "checkboxes" are you trying to check.  Sounds as if you are playing some game.. The end of this game for EVERYONE, no matter how well you play it.. is 6 feet under.. We all end up the same at the end. [/quote]

Evolve or die.  You might be impressed with yourself and where you are, but you should never stop growing, achieving, accomplishing.  Otherwise why not just hang it all up tomorrow?  Striving has nothing to do with it, it's about climbing that next mountain not staying static.   [/quote]
I mean I agree but to me constantly evolving doesn’t always equate with outwardly achievements and money.  There are so many other ways to grow as a person.  [/quote]

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