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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think she played politics (converting the king to Protestant) and lost. [/quote]

[b]She didn’t convert him to Protestant. She was also a catholic - but he wanted a divorce and to remarry and the Pope didn’t let him so he had a tantrum and declared himself the head of a new church. [/b]
He was obviously a terror of a person who was so used to getting his own way that he could not fathom anyone who stood up to him (not that many did, Pope excepted) or threatened him in any way. He would kill those who tried. [/quote]

Not quite that simple, lol. [/quote]

So what is your quick take? She didn’t convert him. Obviously there was a lot more to it but the very simple version is he wanted to divorce and remarry and the Pope said no. No lol needed. [/quote]

I'm not the PP.

My quick take is that like many noble families, the Howard clan was trying to expand and maintain their influence (political, financial). They (like many families) put forward several young women to Henry as mistresses. As his wife continued to not have children, the ambition those families increased. Anne managed to maintain the family's influence without actually having sex with Henry, which is pretty surprising and which was used as a tactic against Anne by the Seymour clan.

On the Henry side of things, he was not raised to be king. He was destined for the church per his maternal grandmother and all his early training was in that department. When his older brother died and he was next in line for the throne, he had a lot more power and less accountability than usual. The pressure to sire an heir starts basically immediately. His father took the crown on the battle field and the monarchy had been going back and forth for the better part of a century. His older wife couldn't have any more kids. He needed one. His wife would not grant the divorce because of her religion, so he broke the religion itself in order to get what he wanted.

I could literally talk about this all night.[/quote]

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