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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall
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The good privates will do their best to screen out 2E children. I echo what PP said about FCPS having some teachers who are very experienced with ASD, only in our ES those teachers tended to be gen ed. [/quote]

This list is absurd, OP. No one other than this strange poster would rank schools for gifted kids like this. There are very few gifted kids in top privates. I have kids two of those FWIW. At most you'll have 10 gifted kids in your child's whole grade. They just don't screen for academics the way magnet programs do.

FCPS has the most comprehensive and inclusive gifted programs with many tiers at almost all levels of schooling with TJ being at the top.
[b]MCPS has extremely high quality programs that are almost impossible to access with the new lottery changes for ES and MS.[/b] In HS most of the top kids rise to the top but you need more than giftedness to get to the HS magnets. You need to show achievement, effort, motivation. Everyone knows Blair is the best. You can't compare the others to Blair but RM, Poolesville, and Wheaton engineering are also very respected. There are other, smaller programs at many other schools like a leadership magnet somewhere and a few others. If you go with MCPS some high schools also have their own local gifted type programs that families like. I think one is called Apex.

FWIW because of the way Fairfax is set up there are many 2e kids in AAP and even TJ. MCPS screens out many kids with IEPs or 504s although you will find a few of them who are always chiming in on DCUM.[/quote]

I'm confused- are there fewer spots available than before?

As a backup you could be sure your home ES offers enriched literacy and compacted math in 4th/5th.[/quote]

The ES/MS programs stopped reserving spots for gifted kids. [/quote]

DP. Is it an actual lottery? Or lottery as in very few spots so like a lottery?
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You need to have certain scores to make it into the pool, and then the pick from the pool is random.  Unlike before when they tried to pick the best candidates from the pool. [/quote]

That was what they were trying to do with TJ. That sounds like an awful method since the smartest kids may not get in if it is random selection.

NYC did this as well. There are no more tests so it is a total crapshoot who gets into their G&T program.

FCPS uses a holistic approach whatever that means to get more URMs.[/quote]

"Smarter" kids aren't more deserving of an education. If there aren't enough seats for everyone, lottery is a good way to be fair and incentivize activitism for expanding educational offerings.

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Attitudes like this are the reason gifted education is dying off. We aren’t talking about “an education.” We are talking about GIFTED education. No, everyone is not equally deserving of education for the gifted. Only the gifted are. That’s like saying we should give everyone glasses, regardless of eyesight. Why does it make some people so mad that gifted kids receive appropriate education? Don’t you want these kids to succeed and be productive in the future for your own good? [/quote]

What evidence do you have that gifted kids who don't get specialized education can't succeed and be productive? [/quote]

NP.  That’s irrelevant.  Gifted kids deserve appropriate support and education just like a kid with an IEP.

BTW some gifted kids are not successful and productive because their needs were not met in school.  Such a loss waste of potential.[/quote]

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