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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Male and female aren’t “genders” - they’re biology, which is “real” in a way that 
 feelings about invented genders are not - sure, they may “feel real” to the person and sure, the person themself is real, but come on, this distinction is very simple

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We aren't talking about biology, we are talking about gender.

All gender is invented.  Your gender is invented.  I bet you feel like your invented gender is 'real'.[/quote]

I’m talking about biology, which is what Mr and Ms and Mrs referred to for like centuries, up until about a year ago - and what they still mean in the eyes of almost everyone

If you get hit by a car today the medical examiner will not know your “gender” - just your sex - so you tell me which one is more real

This whole conversation is about a new use of honorifics that, unlike what preceded ir, is detached from biology

You don’t seem ESL so I assume you are just being obtuse to troll me - successfully, I guess!
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When I call someone “Mr” or “Mrs” though I’m not talking about their sex, I’m just signaling respect and politeness. Certainly gender as much as sex if not more, but most importantly I’m calling them whatever is called for by the social situation and then whatever they tell me they prefer if it’s not that. It’s not about their sex organs. Mx is easy accommodation that I’m happy to make. [/quote]

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