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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why don't cons take seriously their god-demanded duty of good stewardship of this earth? They'd never treat their own house and backyard the way they think polluters have a right to treat our waterways and air. It's as though they can't envision how this pollution will affect them in any way.[/quote] Maybe, just maybe, people have a sincere belief that no matter how noble and just the goals of the EPA are, we cannot tolerate an administrative agency—in particular—that expansively interprets its own authority past the boundary of what the authority it has actually been given. Consent of the governed and all that comes with it…. I don’t want pollution of the environment. But that doesn’t justify a power grab by an administrative agency. Nor am I willing to look the other way because the practical effects of this ruling will be a (temporary?) increase in pollution. Call it fascism, authoritarianism, or power plays, but every tyrant has always believed in the justness of his cause. The only real protection for the people is to not go down that road in the first place. [b]Process and procedures matter in a democratic republic. [/b][/quote] Agreed - but the over reach of SC justices who have life time positions and do not self regulate themselves terribly well (see other thread on SCJ) shows us that all three branches of government need more accountability .. This ruling was unjust in terms of overarching consequences in response to a narrow case of over reach. Quite ironic and not in a good way. [/quote] But there is accountability for SCOTUS in this case! Congress can vote to give EPA clearly the authority congress believes EPA should have and POTUS can sign it into law. [/quote] Exactly how is the SC accountable for decisions that will result in far more lax oversight of our waterways?[/quote] It is not their role to write laws. It IS their role to decide if there has been overreach by govt. And, this is what was decided. [/quote] That is not what PP claimed - they claimed without evidence that the SC had been accountable in this decision. That is not true at all. They are extremely unlikely to have to deal with the consequences of their judicial overreach in gutting the clean water act due to disagreement with one narrow case. [/quote] Perhaps the EPA shouldn't have tried to regulate such a narrow area. We should be asking what else the EPA is overreaching.[/quote] No we should be asking what we should be doing to prevent/ mitigate our collective existential demise due to climate change. [/quote]
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