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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, and I know that the causes of that are increasing maternal age, more women with serious illnesses and health conditions having children, and racism and health inequities. The rate in the UK is likely lower due to a more homogenous population who all have access to universal health care. You can’t compare an apple and an orange! [/quote]

And yet average maternal age in the UK is virtually identical (29/30). Huh.

I’m not going to further derail OPs thread, I just urge caution before saying another country has reckless and unsafe practices when their maternal outcomes are better than they are here. [/quote]

Reckless and unsafe are your words, not mine. And there are a lot of maternal outcomes that matter. The UK has universal health care. The US does not. The UK has a much whiter population than the US. The US has more women of color, who are known to be at greater risk of mortality and who have to face racism which impacts their health before they arrive in the delivery room and it impacts the care they get. [/quote]

Your racism allegation is completely unfounded, ridiculous, and offensive.

What is undeniable about the UK vs US is:  geography.  It’s an island.

An island with a much higher population density than the US.  You are never far from a hospital on a densely packed island.[/quote]

Maybe you have been living under a rock or are completely unaware of issues in maternal and public health over the last 5 years but racial and ethnic disparities and racism do absolutely have a major impact and are a major contributor to our country’s poor maternal outcomes.

Before you go slinging mud, you should at least be aware which one of us is speaking and sharing research backed, evidence based facts and which one is just sharing her woo birth experience and biased perspective.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/news/2021/systemic-racism-key-risk-factor-maternal-death-and-illness

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/issue-brief/racial-disparities-in-maternal-and-infant-health-current-status-and-efforts-to-address-them/

“Maternal and infant health disparities are symptoms of broader underlying social and economic inequities that are rooted in racism and discrimination. Differences in health insurance coverage and access to care play a role in driving worse maternal and infant health outcomes for people of color. However, inequities in broader social and economic factors and structural and systemic racism and discrimination are primary drivers for maternal and infant health. Notably, disparities in maternal and infant health persist even when controlling for certain underlying social and economic factors, such as education and income, pointing to the roles racism and discrimination play in driving disparities.“[/quote]

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