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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Case Western is big on yield protection. At my kid's HS they waitlist all the high stats kids. I'd almost want to say that with a 35/36 ACT its better to go test optional. [/quote] Ditto at our high school. It was off-putting to my high stats kid. If Case had offered huge merit, my kid might have gone there, but my kid just rejected the wait list, so we'll never know. [/quote] Same, just a huge turnoff. Mine got an offer of merit from the waitlist but then rejected the waitlist on their first silly weekly check-in. I'd be wary of sending my kid to a place that is so into rankings that they across the board accept lower stats kids. Before anyone makes an accusation of sour grapes, someone posted data on this from a HS in California at some point. [/quote] They don't "across the board accept lower stats kids". They do what all schools do---they attempt to determine who will actually attend if given an offer of admission. Fact is many kids with a 35/36 ACT and 1550+ SAT are also applying to T20 schools---so if Case thinks they will get into one of those, then they might not offer a spot unless you have shown huge demonstrated interest. It's what all school in the 25-50 range do. Their goal is to fill their class and calculate yield, not offer spots to kids who want to go elsewhere and will likely get in elsewhere. [/quote] That's all rather shady, yes? Other than visiting (privilege) you are at their mercy on how they track DI. Given the demand for T20 schools it's bold to assume these kids are getting in there either. [/quote] If they offer admission to everyone who applies with the 1550+/3.9+UW and 90 % of those kids do not accept, then case has missed out on offering admission to those kids who actually WANT to attend (say in the 1400-1450 range). Because those kids will get admitted elsewhere and get excited about their other schools, accept one by May 1 and move on. So how is it Shady to want to select the students who will actually attend? It's not Shady. That's exactly what college admissions is. It's even done a bit at the T25 level---as in, someone who applies to all 8 Ivies likely has no interest in over half of them. They are all very different schools and someone with Harvard as a best fit is not likely to think Cornell is also a best fit (don't know all the comparisions---my kids were not into ivies). So even a 1600/4.0UW and perfect resume kid has to show why Harvard is for them---if Harvard isn't feeling like they are really the best choice, they will assume the kid is gonna attend another Ivy/T25 and they might WL them or reject them. It's quite simple that many in the 25-50 range know they are "2nd/3rd/4th/5th choices" for many top students. So they attempt to determine who is a 1st/2nd choice and offer them admission. Their goal is to fill their class by May 1, not need to go to the WL for 50%+ of their class. Case will even offer EA students a chance to change to ED2, and give them they financials and merit first. So if your Tippy Top student really wants case, they can demonstrate that by switching to ED2 and get their acceptance. Otherwise, they get deferred to RD and likely rejected or WL because the school is 99% certain they are not going to attend. You just want to have all the options to reject 15 schools yourself. But the school's goal is to garner a certain yield. So you both want to play games---it's called the college admission process. [/quote]
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