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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele]Conservatives yammer non-stop about free speech and "censorship" but now we see their true feelings. Tlaib's event was to recognize a historic event that was tragic for Palestinians. Describing it as "anti-Israel" is like describing a Pearl Harbor Day event as "anti-Japanese".

If Tlaib was being shutdown by a Stanford University dean instead of the Speaker of the House, conservatives would be screeching like stuck pigs. But no free speech for those who don't adhere to the party line.

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So, it's not anti-Israel even though Nakba is translated as "Catastrophe?"
And, here she is lamenting the existence of Israel while missiles are raining down on Tel Aviv.  
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Yes, I think that when you are kicked out of your homeland it is reasonable to call it a "Catastrophe". Here you are denying the Palestinians their history while Israeli missiles rain down on Gaza. 
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I take it you're not a fan of UN resolution 181.[/quote]

I welcome the full implementation of resolution 181. Do you?[/quote]

Did the Palestinians? Azzam Pasha? The Arab states?

Had they respected the UN resolution, the history of the region would be entirely different. That's what makes Tlaib's event so revolting.

Palestinian leadership and their allies violated the UN resolution, launched a war of annihilation, and blame everyone but themselves for the consequences.

And to answer your question, I would no longer support implementation of the 181 map, but absolutely favor a 2 state solution.[/quote]

How many years later can a war justify apartheid? Did the Zulu wars justify South African actions in the 70s? [/quote]

Who's justifying apartheid?

There's a lot to criticize about Israel's conduct, but 1947? Not so much. The Palestinians and Arabs own that one.

That's what makes Tlaib's conduct re: "the Catastrophe" so disgusting.

You violate a UN resolution, launch a war of aggression with the express purpose of committing genocide, then blame your intended [b]victims for winning?[/b]

That's reprehensible.
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If your only criteria for justifying mass expulsion and expropriation of land is "we won", then you must be prepared for a similar reaction should you lose.

I also find your sudden respect for the UN resolutions nothing short of charming.  I didn't know Israel cares about what the UN says.  I mean does it? Or only when it works for them?[/quote]

Who's justifying what now?

I'm not Israel and I'm not "justifying" anything.

I'm simply objecting to Tlaib rewriting history.

Fact is, Palestinian leadership and Arab states behaved reprehensibly in '47 and '48. Commemorating your failed attempt to commit genocide and blaming your intended victims b/c you lost is ridiculous.

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History has many sides.  Israel has pushed the one that works for them.  Whatever the history of that region is, I'm sure Tlaib understands it better than you.[/quote]

:D Seriously?

Maybe you should do some reading.[/quote]

Actually, if you did any impartial reading, you'd know that the powers that be contemplated a mass transfer of Arabs out of the area proposed for the future Jewish state as far back as during the time of the Peel commission! It was never envisaged that there would be Arabs in the land of Israel.  And the Zionist leaders knew that very well.  Read their scholarship and you see the decision "we'll take what's given now and grab the rest later" loud and clear.  [/quote]

With what in exchange?  Palestinian families, who worked the land, built ancestral homesteads and farms with their own sweat and labor, lived there and called it home for generations...   They just get expelled and everything they built is handed over wholesale to someone else.   What was ever offered in exchange?[/quote]

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