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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Come on guys just do basic math. 3.6 million students graduate each year and 1% of that is 36,000 correct? And that’s nearly double what the ivy league can take each year.

When you consider that top schools take from well beyond the top 1% to fulfill their needs do you realize it’s a simple math problem and rearranging the deck chairs will not suddenly result in no one feeling that they were cheated.

The nirvana you think you seek is only possible if applicants realize that there are more than 20 great colleges in the country and that if they are a top performer, they are likely to get into one.[/quote]

Do the math, most of them should be able to get in t20 schools though.

I personally think T60 is pretty much great.  [/quote]

But they can’t take just the top 1% academically and fill their classes. They can’t get the musicians artists writers, and yes, athletes if they just take the top one percent which would be overly weighted with students with strong math skills because you can’t score that high without being a polymath.

And for the record, I believe that a large percentage of those kids do make up the top 20. If you look at the stats each school publishes you will see that is the case.[/quote]

You said do the math so I did the math. I agree mostly, but the colleges should be more transparent.
For example, If they need musicians playing certain instruments thisyear, say so.
So if I play another instrument, I can save my money and time and effort, apply somewhere else.

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If you are a music major, you will easily know how many of your instrument school X needs.  Talk to the music dept and you will find out the typical size, how many undergrad and how many grads for say French Horn fills the studio.  They will tell you how many seniors are currently graduating and you do the math.  If you are not a Music major, very few (if any ) elite schools fill their slots with "we need 1 more oboe player".

Colleges are transparent.  They tell you what is "very important", "important", "considered" and "not considerded".  they tell you the gpa by quartile and sat/act quartiles.  They also tell you their acceptance rate, and typically you can get data on ED vs RD rates.  So you can compile all that information, do what you want with it and determine if it's worth it for your kid to apply.  Take Tulane, where they take something like 60% from ED---really want to go there, you better consider applying ED.  
Majority of colleges will tell you they are holistic admissions.  That means that they value all kids as more than just a SAT and GPA number.  Nothing is really hidden.  It just doesn't happen to be a "if you get X+ on your SATs and 3.Y+ UW gpa and Q AP courses, etc then we are your school and come on in you will be accepted. "  that does not happen for any school with under a 50-60% acceptance rate.

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