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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are they so confident?

Are they going to make kids repeat grades, so each class will have some older kids in it?[/quote]

I hope so. That's one of the things I like about the school. Disruptive kids who can't hack it don't continue to disrupt.[/quote]

[b]Having kids repeat grades doesn’t work. [/b]If a kid doesn’t understand the academics in a particular grade, they need specialized intervention. Just the kid sit through the same content twice won’t do a thing. Additionally, kids who are retained are more likely to drop out since they legally can on their 18th birthday. That’s why schools don’t do it anymore. [/quote]

Works great for me and my kids. My kids' classes are filled with kids at or above grade level, and disruptive kids who want attention instead of to learn feel uncomfortable in an environment where academic success is prioritized and rewarded. [/quote]

We get it, you just want “those kids” out of the way. But having an individual kid repeat a grade isn’t going to improve that kid’s academic or life outcomes at all, and leaves the previous grade with those pesky retained kids. If your goal is to educate a kid, having them repeat a grade doesn’t do anything to accomplish that goal.[/quote]

JFC. You continue to fall back on a false choice.

P.S. Yes, I want disruptive kids who don't care about learning the hell away from my kids and all other kids who want to learn. What's funny is you spend so much time around SJW who suffer liberal guilt that you don't quite know how to respond when people don't scurry away at being accused of "not caring" or in response to veiled accusations of racism (see, "those kids"). [/quote]

Wow your genius plan to warehouse kids with special needs is so ethical, and so very IDEA-compliant. What a nice, caring, empathetic person you must be.

Did you ever think about how we're all one car accident away from having special needs? Life can change in an instant. Be careful what you wish for.[/quote]

There you go again with false choices. You frame the issue in such a way as to prevent honest discussion of issues. You immediately flee to your corner with: 15 year olds in K!!! Warehousing kids!!!

You spend a lot of time on these topics and yet seem woefully disinterested in solving the problems. You favor bumper stickers and talking points. Why are trade schools not a better option than social promotion? Why can't we consider the deleterious impact of these precious few on the larger population or kids? Why must you conflate special needs with disruptive a-holes who are perpetually truant and disruptive and violent? We are also just one bullet or botched robbery away from dying or trauma because some "HS grad" with a 5th grade education is in and out of prison, but thank the lord he wasn't held back.[/quote]

Because trade schools aren't appropriate for elementary age. And because all children have the right to a real education, not "trade school". "Holding back" kids does not actually address their needs and makes them far more likely to drop out, that is why I don't support it. If a student is disruptive, they should be diagnosed with whatever is applicable and receive services for that. Sometimes that means a different school placement, but students have the right to the least restrictive environment. Even if you don't like it, it's the law. So what you're proposing is that BASIS not follow IDEA. Right? It seems like you wish these children would just disappear.

I don't care if you call me names, but to say things like that about children is really tasteless. [b]Adolescents are truant, disruptive, and violent for reasons-- because of special needs, life circumstances, or traumatic experiences.[/b] If you don't see the connection, that's unfortunate, because it's real. Those things can be addressed and helped, it takes time and doesn't work perfectly but it's worth it and pays off in the long run. I believe all children should have their needs met and a peaceful learning environment, and I'm sorry to hear you don't believe that is possible at BASIS. Perhaps the staff at BASIS is not doing a good job?[/quote]

I think some of them are this way because people like you have created an environment where there is no accountability. You make excuses for everything. A kid is violent, let's not blame the kid. Let's not blame the parents. You spend more time worrying about the violent, truant ill-mannered kids than the ones they victimize. Of course, when a kids witnesses violence in the classroom from one of these kids, we've now got 35 more kids who witnesed violence. I bet you are a big proponent of restorative justice.

P.S. You talk a lot about IDEA and BASIS violating it. The people who enforce it don't think they do. If you want to be an expert, know what the heck you are talking about. [/quote]

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