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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I originally was thinking the same way the OP was thinking. DC had endless complaints about not being able to review quiz answers to be able to do well on tests, not be able to review tests if a re-take was necessary. Written work never discussed..... Then I asked my kid... "DO you teachers have after school hours? Do your teachers have "Mascot" Time( I guess this is also regarded as a Study Hall) available for students"?  Something must have clicked in my kid because they actually went and emailed the teacher and asked! Turns out the majority(unfortunately not all) would indeed meet with them to discuss all of the above during a Study Hall. And those that did not made an effort to answer questions over email.
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OP here.  It's funny that the assumption was/is made that my kid never asked to see teachers.  He does indeed meet with teachers.  
My issue, that somehow got lost in the shuffle:
No work is ever handed back.  The only feedback is a number grade in SIS that often shows up days or weeks after the test, essay, lab, quiz, etc.  An essay with only a grade number attached is really no feedback.  A test that can only be reviewed if kids make extra appointments actually seems like more work for a teacher and no feedback for most kids.  I'm wondering why some teachers are not handing back tests during class and giving kids at least a few minutes to look at what they've done DURING CLASS.  Then, make appointments for deeper feedback if needed.
I hope my point might be clearer now.
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Because as soon as the test is handed back someone takes a picture of it, posts it to the group chat, and the whole school has it.

I have 3 options:
1) wait to pass the test back until everyone has taken it (this is often 2 weeks later, since there is almost always someone out for sports/vacation/illness when we test)
2) [b]Write 5+ versions of every test. An A/B version for test day so they don’t copy off their neighbor, a C version for anyone who takes it on a later date, a D/E version for the retake. Then there are study guides and remediation that are basically additional versions of the test.[/b]
3) Pass it back with the assumption that anyone who takes the test after that point has already seen the whole thing.

[b]I have done all 3 at various points in my career and they all suck. Phones and endless retakes have made things very difficult[/b].[/quote]

Another teacher here. 
Phones and retakes do indeed suck.
I will no longer make C,D, and E versions of the test. 
Thus things don't get returned as the OP would like. 
[b]Our children have a dependence on technology and a different view of what cheating is which creates this situation.[/quote][/b]

OK, this I do understand.  What kids think of as cheating or not cheating has definitely changed.  And retakes, which are really for mastery but executed in all kinds of ways that don't work, have totally changed things.  But in the end, what are kids learning without feedback?  I'm still at a loss on this part.[/quote]

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