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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Colleges have always had vaccination requirements for communicable diseases. I went back for grad school after time away and they asked for proof of my chicken pox vaccine. I had chicken pox, I had to have a blood titer to prove I didn’t need the vaccine. I did get the meningitis vaccine. I think the covid vaccine will live on at universities.[/quote]

I never had to show my vaccine card at the university I attended (public, California) in the 90s.

My oldest son started college in 2018, so before Covid.   He did not have to show is vaccine card at his school either.[/quote]

Every college or university that I have attended or worked at in the southeast required at least some vaccinations, particularly meningitis. We had an outbreak when I was in college, and two students died and many more became ill. After that, we all needed to have vaccinations and most of us wanted them. Usually they just ask you if you have them, and you don't have to "show a vaccine card" so people can lie if they are dishonest.

As a former educator, I have no interest in catching Covid from a student and potentially ending up with long Covid, which can even happen among vaccinated adults, especially people who are older or who already have health problems. Students living and working and partying in close quarters is a much different situation from going to work in an office building with other adults. I am vaccinated, but would rather not take a chance working in a college or university again.

But, I worked in Georgia, where I had to sign a "loyalty oath" to the State of Georgia if I wanted to accept a position there. Seriously. I am not kidding. And you people are complaining about a vaccine to reduce chances of serious infection? [/quote]

Consider how selfish your position is. You would force young people to expose themselves to a risk so that they may potentially reduce a risk to you by some negligible amount. If the vaccines are so effective, you should shoot yourself up with them but not force others to do so. [/quote]

All vaccines work 1000x better if everyone gets them!  This is nothing new.  Why do you think we now have measles outbreaks?  .......because the source is always a non-vaxed person who travels somewhere that measles is NOT irradiated and brings it back to the USA.  Once people went on a "not getting vaxed" trend the incidences of diseases we had irradiated in the US started occurring again.   Most of us do NOT remember getting these diseases. But talk to anyone over 70 and they will remember friends who died or were severely changed for life from getting these childhood illnesses.  [/quote]

The mistake here is that while the Covid vaccine is called a vaccine, it is not a vaccine like the measles vaccine. It not only doesn’t provide sterilizing immunity, it barely provides immunity. Vaccinated people get infected and transmit the disease. Its primary efficacy is to reduce severe outcomes.  And unlike other vaccines produced from dead viruses, it is a more complicated mechanism with more significant and unknown consequences. The measles vaccine is harmless and extraordinarily effective at ending infection and transmission. That cannot be said of the Covid “vaccine.” There is a reason even the Biden administration has ended all these mandates. The colleges need to catch up. [/quote]

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