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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting. Why can’t people move to a less expensive town or opt out of the educational prepping insanity?[/quote]
1. good jobs are mostly in the cities, like Seoul, and the majority of good paying jobs are with one of the chaebol (conglomerates) like Samsung, or Google Korea -- these types of jobs are very hard to get, which leads to...
2. unlike the US, there are not many top universities in Korea - there are maybe two - and if you can get in, you are set for life because the top companies will only hire from these companies

There are a lot of great things about Korea, but this kind of pipeline isn't healthy, which is why so many Koreans want to come to the US where the competition is less fierce, and one can get a great job without going to a T20 colleges.
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People stay to 11PM - doing what? Really nothing. Just busy work. Nothing productive.

From the outside if you are hiring the best and the brightest like they claim why is it taking them so long during the day to do basic office work. They don’t sound very bright io me. What go they do? ChatGPT will make 99% of the jobs they are doing worthless anyway.[/quote]

I don’t think everyone works until 11pm. There is just a lot of pressure to be at the top. America seems very accepting of being average. A parent would not put excessive pressure on their kid who isn’t that smart. Not everyone is smart. It is a difficult country to be an average student.

I don’t know if all schools are like this but my cousin told me all the kids are in the same class. They are not split by level. I told her in America, most kids are gen ed and then most school districts have a gifted or advanced program for the top 5-20% depending on the district.

[b]Can you imagine putting all the slower learners with the advanced kids in the same class? [/b]They also rank you in order so you will know where you stand compared to your fellow classmates.[/quote]
What? They do that here, too, other than the magnet/AP/IB classes. Where do you live?  The "honors" classes are now mixed with slow and a bit more advanced learners.[/quote]

We live in McLean. The advanced kids are in AAP. If you put the lower kids with the AAP kids, it would be horrible for the low performers, especially in math. I actually asked my cousin specifically about math and she said all the kids learn the same math. I told her in America, a student could elect to take some honors and some regular or all regular classes in high school and still go on to an ok college and have a fine life. She said that the moms would not want their kids in the average or lower classes. Seems like a bad system. [/quote]

It would not be “horrible” - private schools don’t do segregate by level until the middle school grades[/quote]

Because private schools hand pick their students. No ESOL, low income or disabled students at them. [/quote]

And I imagine the Korean schools that educate the children of the UMC do as well. Let’s face it - it is the UMC who are obsessed with school performance. The average laborer doesn’t care if their kid is in the top 10%, and the elite know their kid can do well regardless.[/quote]

South Korea is a different beast. Virtually all kids go to some kind of hagwon by middle school:

“The average South Korean family spends 20 percent of its income on after-hours “cram schools,” or hagwons, with spending starting early. More than 35 percent of 2-year-olds, 80 percent of 5-year-olds and 95 percent of middle schoolers attend hagwons.

https://hechingerreport.org/opinion-known-intense-testing-pressure-top-performing-south-korea-dials-back/

It says something that most Korean high schools offer a dinner service.

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