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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate.  We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens. [/quote]

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. [b]SF has a drug and crime problem[/b] that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.[/quote]

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates.  That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago.  And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it&gt;

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When you stop arresting people that commit crime (e.g. people who walk into walgreens take a whole bunch of stuff and simply walk out), of course your rate of crime appears to be 'lower'.  There are many ways to manipulate crime stats. But the fact that whole foods had to close in my not like a year due to outrageous levels of theft and safety issues speaks volumes. Now residents are left with a food desert. [/quote]

Wrong. You can’t hide statistical death rates by not arresting people. Death rates are far higher in rural right wing areas.[/quote]

Death rates are only one indicator of crime.

The crime you’re ignoring are things like theft and car break ins. They have become rampant in SF, and they are not victimless crimes. The police don’t even bother to come out, so they go severely underreported on any official statistics.

This is the day to day stuff that contributes to the sense of lawlessness.[/quote]

Look at how the conservatives contort themselves to argue their BS! Move those goalposts!

I thought we were discussing actual crime but now it’s all about a “sense of lawlessness” that is the main problem? Facts be damned! How can anyone define or measure your vague “sense” in the first place? Yep, you may die a violent death in Montana but we should really be focused on San Fran and the fuzzy gut feelings of random internet person who hates democrats. They can’t prove it or show any evidence but they are certain that it’s happening because their friend told them. Or Tucker.[/quote]

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