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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no system of beliefs. Unless you’re talking about science (big bang, etc). I guess that’s a “religion”. :lol: [/quote]

There are many things we believe, quite rationally, that we cannot prove. Take basic moral claims, for example, such as “It’s wrong to inflict pain on people for no reason.” This seems rational and sensible, but I doubt I could prove it without assuming some more basic moral claim on which it is based.[/quote]

I was referring to OP's comment about the big bang theory. Scientific theories attempt to explain the world around us. Usually they don't require supernatural forces. 
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What is the causes of the Big Bang ?
A) Creator 
B) It just happened 
Both are based on faith.

B isn’t faith. You seem confused about the difference between faith and scientific uncertainty. 
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I have no problem with scientific uncertainty.
My problem is with an Atheist comparing Creator beliefs with fairy tales.
This happened in the Atheist/Agnostic tread.[/quote]

Some creator beliefs are considered to be fairy tales by people who believe in other creator beliefs.

e.g., Athena, goddess of wisdom, born from the brain of Zeus, the main ancient Greek God.  Christians don't believe that at all.  They believe that the Son of God was crucified and rose from the dead.[/quote]

If you believe in the Creator of the universe beyond space time no religion will say it is a fairy tale.
Some Atheist will say that.
That’s why they have strong confidence in something coming from nothingness.
Which is the same thing as faith for nothingness.[/quote]

It just means…we don’t know.

Do people use “faith” as a support mechanism because they are uncomfortable with uncertainty? 
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What I said doesn’t apply to people who say we don’t know or we don’t care.[/quote]

Who says they know? 
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Some Atheists say they know there is no Creator, Agnostics say they don’t know.[/quote]

We were talking about how the universe was formed.

We don’t know definitively how it was formed. Specifically, which natural forces were at play. Just because there is uncertainty doesn’t open the door to supernatural forces.

Unless maybe if you’re uncomfortable with uncertainty. 
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I would say agnostics are not uncomfortable with assuming uncertainty. Try again.[/quote]

Being uncertain doesn't mean assuming supernaturalism.[/quote]

Agnostics don't assume anything for certain. It is the actual dictionary definition of agnosticism: The belief that the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities cannot be known with certainty. They do not assume that there is a god or "supernaturalism" as you put it, and they do not assume that there isn't. The only ones making assumptions on this are atheists and theists.[/quote]

We’re talking specifically how the universe was formed here, not beliefs in gods.

Theists have supernatural explanations. 
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