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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Times have changed. Ivies are unlikely without a hook. A 91 is not a 4.0, that starts at 93. A 91 is around a 3.7 or 3.8 on 4.0 scale. Kids are competing against all the public school kids with 4.0s.[/quote] You are right kids are competing against public school kids with 4's,[b] but colleges are aware (at least the T20/Ivies) that Saint Albans's curriculum is more rigorous[/b] than the vast majority of those. The school CCO does an excellent job in ensuring that universities where the boys are typically enrolling understand this. OP, based on past years, your son has a chance at the Ivies and other top. It is not going to be a slam dunk because there are boys who will have higher grades and higher scores AND have legacy AND possibly be athletes AND have some strange and crazy ECs (like starting a business or saving the whales). But he sounds like a great candidate who will have decent odds.[/quote] another one of these comments - people, the top 10% at just about any public is comparable to most privates at the same rank. The drop off and disconnect occurs below that - sorry your massive tuition bill alone doesn’t make you a better candidate, especially vs the strong AP/IB public candidate [/quote] Yes, top 10-15% at the publics are comparable to the privates. And those public school kids rightly get admitted to the T10. However, MANY more privates at average and median level make it to higher-ranked T15-T40 than public school kids who are average or median. So, top performers everywhere have about an equal shot, but average to high-average performers at the privates are doing much better than those who are doing an average performance at the publics. [/quote] Some of that is full pay. More of the 15-40 are need aware. And with a few high income school exceptions there will be far more public school students who need aid, and more interest in in-state public schools. Even at Whitman some of my DCs classmates chose UMD over higher ranked private and OOS schools they had been accepted to. At my other DCs private school that was much rarer. [/quote] The only top 40 college that I know of that is need aware is Tufts (unless you are an international student). Could you provide examples of others that are need aware for US citizens? [/quote] Wake Forest and Wash U come to mind. As do the UC schools (i think there are 4-5 of them in the top 40) and UT-Austin. Also there are schools that are need blind but who don't guarantee meeting financial need - that is another barrier for some/many families.[/quote] Wash U and UC schools in top 40 are need blind - these are recent policy changes within the last few years. [/quote]
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