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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.[/quote]
Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next. [/quote]

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people. 
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Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?[/quote]

The Algebra entry point aren't the cause of different math outcomes, they're a symptom. Assuming your answer to your question is no, wouldn't you also answer "no" to these questions:
Do you think it's equitable to have multiple different senior year math classes (basic/remedial math, normal precalc, honors precalc, Calc AB, Calc BC) that result in varying math outcomes for undergrad students?
Do you think it's equitable to have different degrees that result in varying career outcomes for college graduates?
Do you think it's equitable to have different careers that result in varying income options for employees?

If you want to see what your version of "equity" looks like in practice, I suggest you go read [i]Harrison Bergeron[/i] by Kurt Vonnegut[/quote]
Of course those varying results in senior year, career, and income arent equitable. [/quote]

Good. The kids aren't equal in smarts or effort or skills either. No one is. I hope we never have "equity" - it would be evil.[/quote]

How exactly are you defining "equity" here? 
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Im just trying to understand if having multiple tracks of math would be equitable for people who are proponents of equity. I support differentiation and tracking. Not sure if that fits into the pro-equity viewpoint or not. [/quote]

I'm not an equity "proponent" - I only speak for myself. I support clustering with extensions (available to all) through elementary school maybe up to middle school/6th or 7th. Alternate math paths opening up in 7th or 8th. No tracking. 
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But that's what the rest of us want? I want clustering! What I don't want is kids stuck in remedial classes because a few kids in the class are behind. How is this different than what people want?

Equity to me means that higher tracks are open and available to anyone (not just those whose parents pay for IQ testing or whose counselors recommend them). If the kids can't do the rigor of the work, they will be weeded out and returned to regular classes.[/quote]

This is what Loudoun tried in MS and HS. Made honors classes available to anyone who reguested to be put in honors, no teacher approval required. All it did was water down the honors curriculum and now many years later they have decided (surprise!) that there is no need for honors/gen ed distinction and EVERYONE can just take the same level everything! (except Math.) Which effectively makes every class remedial. Isn't progress great?[/quote]

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