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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We’re planning to retire to WNY, likely one of the villages north of Niagara Falls.  Yes, taxes are high, but it’s also reasonably insulated from the worst effects of climate change, which matter to us.  DH is from there, hence preferring that over VT/NH.[/quote]

You’re going to live somewhere that has sh!tty weather all the time right now in order to avoid the highly speculative effects of climate change in the indeterminate future? 🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂[/quote]

DH and I love cold weather; we don’t consider it “shitty.”  Winters are long but the other seasons are gorgeous.  I’ll take a Buffalo winter over a DC summer any day.

Also, I don’t take advice from science-deniers, so there’s that.[/quote]

You like it now, will you like it as much when you're 85 and can't drive and use a walker and are afraid one fall on the ice may be the end of you?[/quote]when I am 85 and can’t drive and need a walker I will move into a Home near my children wherever they may be but I am not going to live in the south for 25 years dying of the heat just in case that happens when I am 85.  [/quote]

I’m the PP who was being replied to so I didn’t write the above, but it’s exactly how I feel, too.  [/quote]

My parents live there now, and are in denial about what a problem it is. They constantly want me to help them with weather maintenance issues for their house, and they basically can't travel at all in the winter because they won't drive in snow. They're only mid-70s but this stuff catches up with you. Skiing isn't fun for them anymore. I really resent that they moved someplace inconvenient that would obviously pose a lot of challenges, and now act like it's some unforseen misfortune. [/quote]

These are your issues, PP.  Stop projecting them onto others.[/quote]

Ok. Enjoy dealing with the snow without help.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/protect-your-heart-when-shoveling-snow-201101151153[/quote]

But why are you assuming PP won’t have help? My in laws have had the same company for years shovel/plow their driveway and sidewalk. There are tons of other companies should something happen to this one. Some of us love New England and financially plan and prepare for the things we will need in our retirement years. Just like we would plan if we wanted to live somewhere else. [/quote]

Because it's not just the shoveling. It's feeling like you can't even walk to your own mailbox without risk. Can't drive anywhere because you might not be able to drive back. When you get where you're going, will you be able to get from the car to the place safely? Basically unless you can pay to hire a chaperone every time you need to go somewhere, it's a long boring difficult winter.  You can say "that's your issue" but I'm telling you, it's the issue of my parents, all their friends and relatives there, and thus also their adult children. These places should be thought of as for the first decade of retirement only, then you need to make another plan.

The population of northern New England is aging (not just because of arriving retirees) and it can be very hard to find a facility to move into. I'm trying to find one right now and the options are few, expensive, and not that great.[/quote]

FFS - you can hire someone to salt your walk, too.  Why wouldn’t an older person be able to walk to their mailbox without risk?  As for driving - pay attention to the weather and that’s usually not an issue.  What happened in Buffalo over Christmas was a tragedy, but many of the deaths could have been avoided if people paid attention to the forecast and stayed off the roads.

I get that you’re bitter AF, but enough, already.[/quote]

So you won't be going anywhere until the salt and shovel people come. Could be a while. Are you going to hire someone to salt your destination as well?

Look, I'll stop belaboring it, but you have to really think this stuff through. In the winter, every single time you leave your house it's a project and you have to work with your service provider who, amazingly, has many other walks to shovel and roads to plow.  Just saying "I'll hire someone" is a way of avoiding thinking about whether you really will be able to get the level or service you want, and whether you truly want to live your life around the weather.[/quote]

Are you always this patronizing?

I lived in Chicago for seven years.  I know snow.  I know ice.  I know terrible weather.  I *also* know, as 16:56 and 17:00 pointed out, that in areas with lousy winter weather, like Buffalo, like Chicago, they have the infrastructure to deal with it.  It’s not like here, where people freak out and things shut down in winter weather, in part because we don’t have the resources to make it safe for people to be out and about.

As for living your life around the weather, I’ll take this option to Florida, which the elderly seem to love, with all its heat and humidity and hurricanes.  No, thank you.[/quote]

But why are you assuming they would live in a city? This stuff is a lot harder if you're rural or outside the center of your town, because you have much more responsibility to maintain and pay for for your own infrastructure and when the power goes out it can be out for days. Yes, Buffalo and Chicago have infrastructure, but huge portions of VT, NH, and NY state don't have anywhere near that level. People deal with, yes, but often with the help of younger family members. If you're going to live there without family, go in with your eyes open.[/quote]

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