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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most of the people who are most adamantly against aap or TJ or the like have traditionally average kids.

What do you think qualifies you to have a valid opinion or a meaningful input if you don’t have a real understanding of gifted individuals?[/quote]

Ask all of the people who have been using exam prep to pass their kids off as brighter than they are.[/quote]

This happens ALL the time with ALL kinds of tests. Med school grads have to take the board test and law school grads have to pass the bar exam to become licensed. Are you saying these people cheated because they used prep materials including previously used exam questions when preparing to take these tests? [/quote]

Public school programs should be open to everyone, not just those who can afford to invest heavily in prep. Med school grads and would be lawyers do in fact almost uniformly enroll in prep classes. Don't think it's fair to expect children to do this in order to compete.[/quote]

They are open to everyone based on need. Would you send normal kid to the special Ed classroom?

You can’t send a kid who can’t keep up with the material to the gifted classroom. [/quote]

They aren't open to everyone based on need.  There are huge overlaps between the bottom half of the kids in AAP and the top gen ed kids who weren't admitted.  There are some kids who have high test scores, have high GBRS, and are working above grade level in all subjects, yet get rejected for AAP.  How is AAP open to those kids?  Or are you suggesting that they don't need AAP and couldn't keep up with the material?[/quote]

More likely then not, those kids are at a school with lots of high test scores and high GBRS and they have similar peers in their classroom. That Gen Ed class looks very different and operates differently then a kid at a school where the average test score for AAP is 10 points lower. The high test score, high GBRS not admitted kid is probably in a Gen Ed class where there are fewer degrees of difference between the kids so the Teacher can differentiate more then the kid at a Title 1 school where the Teacher has kids who don’t speak English, kids who are 2 years behind, kids who are 1 year behind, kids barely on grade level, and kids who are a little bit ahead.

The parents who seem to fret most about their kids not being in AAP are at the high SES schools were AAP is some type of badge of honor or the parents who wanted a bigger house for less money and bought into a Title 1 school boundary and have just realized why that house was so much cheaper then the house by the MC or UMC schools where the level of differentiation is huge.

The overlap you are worried about is not really the problem you think it is at most schools. Plenty of kids do well in Advanced Math or LIII pull outs in the Gen Ed classroom. They don’t need AAP.

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