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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most of the people who are most adamantly against aap or TJ or the like have traditionally average kids.

What do you think qualifies you to have a valid opinion or a meaningful input if you don’t have a real understanding of gifted individuals?[/quote]

Ask all of the people who have been using exam prep to pass their kids off as brighter than they are.[/quote]

This happens ALL the time with ALL kinds of tests. Med school grads have to take the board test and law school grads have to pass the bar exam to become licensed. Are you saying these people cheated because they used prep materials including previously used exam questions when preparing to take these tests? [/quote]

Public school programs should be open to everyone, not just those who can afford to invest heavily in prep. Med school grads and would be lawyers do in fact almost uniformly enroll in prep classes. Don't think it's fair to expect children to do this in order to compete.[/quote]

They are open to everyone based on need. Would you send normal kid to the special Ed classroom?

You can’t send a kid who can’t keep up with the material to the gifted classroom. [/quote]

You seem to misunderstand the issue. It's more that some parents want to control how selection works in order to improve their odds. It isn't about ability. They feel it's fine to buy test answers is a fine way to define merit.[/quote]

I’m not misunderstanding anything. You are. You keep getting hung up on this idea that gifted education = TJ = answer theft.

Even if it true that some people stole answers to the TJ test, that can’t be everyone. Additionally, TJ was top ranked in all kinds of stem activities. Will you now say that parents bought the top placements too? In everything there are people who don’t deserve to be there, but you don’t burn down the forest to get read of a flea. [/quote]

The perfectly average kids who only got in because of years of prep and test buying seem to feel it was worthwhile. It seems like their test was measuring the wrong things or maybe it's much easier than some wish to let on.[/quote]

I knew a perfectly average person once, who’d say ‘if I wanted to, if I put in the effort, I’d do this, and I’d do that!’ Guess what they couldn’t do $hit, so all they could do was brag about what they would do if they only tried. [/quote]

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