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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority.  Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.

https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/[/quote]
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.

I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually. [/quote]

That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.

And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them. [/quote]
Sure. But infrastructure in those neighborhoods are not designed to accommodate a lot of cars. The traffic safety risks are obvious from people zooming in and out of neighborhoods to go and workout. Because there is no capacity limitation, you can have a whole commercial gym at your house like a Planet Fitness. The developer who built Planet Fitness has to pay transportation impact fees to ensure that the increased infrastructure demands are accommodated. Not here. It’s wildly dangerous and pretty stupid as a matter of policy.

As PP says, it’s also a good question why it’s restricted to pools and gyms as the only acceptable commercial businesses. [/quote]

Because it's one ZTA. Are there other home-based businesses you would like to allow, in addition to pools and gyms? I can think of many.

As for wildly dangerous - I don't know why people going to a pool or a workout room would be zooming in and out of neighborhoods any more than your neighbors are already zooming in and out to go to a pool or gym elsewhere. Or for any other reason they're driving in and out.[/quote]
Every car going down a residential street where kids live and play is a risk. Maybe you don’t agree, but keeping kids safe is an important role of public policy. Intentionally increasing risk to kids for something so inessential is pretty stupid, which makes sense as to why this is coming from Jawando. [/quote]

Last time I checked a residential street is constructed and maintained as a public access way, not a playground. That’s what yards and actual playgrounds are for.[/quote]

No, streets should be for everyone, including for kids playing. Except kids don't do that anymore, these days, because it's too dangerous, and not because of home-based businesses.[/quote]

Streets are not taxpayer-subsidized playgrounds.

If you want your kids playing on pavement then get yourself a long driveway.[/quote]

They actually are. Or, more accurately, streets are supposed to be safe for kids who are walking places and biking places (including school) while being kids. Safety for everyone, including kids, should be more important than you going places as fast as possible in a car. However, that actually shows the threadbareness of the other PP saying that we can't allow people to legally rent out their home gyms or home pools because it would endanger children when people arrive to use those home gyms or home pools in a car.

That other PP also keeps talking about "narrow residential streets", and actually narrow residential streets are safer. People generally drive more slowly on the narrow streets that have parked cars on both sides and basically just one lane down the middle and most houses don't even have a driveway let alone a garage, than they do on the wide streets with no parked cars and no sidewalks and no curbs and every house has a driveway and a garage.[/quote]

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