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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Your wrong to think of this as legislation.  This is oversight.  Charters can pay their teachers more if they want.[/quote]

Somewhat true -- the amount that charters have to pay their teachers is based on the amount of funding they receive. This funding (in theory) should be equitable with DCPS. If DC is providing an additional 170 million to DCPS outside of the per pupil funding formula for teacher salaries, then DCPS is getting thousands of dollars more per student than charters.

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This could all be solved by charters committing in writing to using the funds to pay their teachers more.  They won’t. It will go into a black hole that no one can track. They will continue to pay their teachers 40,000 a year.  It’s a feature not a bug.  [/quote]

Lies. My charter school matches the DCPS scale to be competitive for educators. Also, publicly available reports show that the average salary for charter teachers two years ago was over 65K with a max over 130K.[/quote]

I’m PP. I just looked up my kids charter school (Breakthrough) and the average teacher salary is $64,860 with a range of 57,500-83,850. However all the admin make over $100,000.  Let’s be honest I chose it for Montessori but I understand the teachers are not getting paid as high and that’s probably why we have had turnover. [/quote]

The DCPS starting salary is 56k meaning that your school is paying starting salaries above DCPS. Have you looked at what DCPS administrators make? That contract has recently gone up as well. The starting salary is $130k.

ALL teachers in DC need fair compensation -- charter or DCPS. Looks like your charter has already tried to be competitive. What do you think will happen to teacher turnover next year when your charter (which had been competitive this year) is now competing with salaries that have gone up nearly 10,000+?[/quote]

To be honest I don’t particularly care.  That’s why the administration gets paid more.  They need to figure out staffing.  You seem to be arguing with yourself here anyway.  I stated what teachers at my charter got paid and stated what administrators got paid. No where did I make a judgment about the pay.  I’m of the opinion if a charter teacher doesn’t like the pay they should take their talents elsewhere.  But I am somewhat insulated as there aren’t many Montessori schools to go to so people stay out of necessity. [/quote]

I get it and I'm not arguing at all. There seems to be a prevailing narrative of teachers being dramatically underpaid with one of the prior posts mentioning charter teachers making 40k. I applaud you for looking it up and seeing that your charter starting range is $57K. I'm only noting that the 57K is above the range DCPS teachers started at this year and that the admin pay of your charter over $100k is still very much lower than the DCPS starting salary of $130K for administrators.

So, again, I'm not arguing but I do care and am very concerned that there will be a lot more turnover, lower morale and (charter) school instability if the resources aren't made available to raise teacher pay.[/quote]

DP: Charter schools are the root cause of most of the instability outside of W3, so I'm not exactly sympathetic to this argument [/quote]

Oh this is hilarious.  You are naive or your child must be in the early grades.

Nope, the dysfunction and race to the bottom in DCPS is the root cause of why families choose charters.  This would not change one bit if there were no charters.[/quote]

Charters are the worst thing for my gentrifying DCPS IB. If charters didn’t exist, I don’t think my IB ever would have gentrified. You need people to be willing to stay in DC and the public school system if they live EOTP. Charters did that 10-15 years ago.[/quote]

This pretty much nails it. There's a chicken/egg problem that cannot be reconciled with slogans and by ignoring history. Charters kept a generation of school age kids in DC when their families would have fled. Now that many of those areas have a critical mass of school age kids people complain that the same charters that kept them here are hurting DCPS. That's lazy and dumb.

The "charters aren't playing fair and are hurting DCPS" narrative also ignores that there's nothing stopping DCPS from competing. There are instances where DCPS schools are succeeding in making the case for their offering. Look at Ludlow and Two Rivers. TR is by all accounts falling down while LT is on the rise. There are a number of families moving from TR to LT. That's the education market working like it was supposed to. You don't compete with charters by howling at the moon that "they shouldn't exist" or that they "steal money from public schools" or making up data on compensation. You compete on education and outcomes. [/quote]

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