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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]CPS should be investigating all families/homes of kids who are emotional disturbed or disruptive at school to make sure the kids are eating and sleeping properly, not being abused, etc. And now we can add that they shouldn’t be allowed access to a gun to the list of things to be checked out.

The parents of this particular kid should be charged with attempted homicide for allowing their emotionally disturbed 6 year old access to a loaded firearm.[/quote]

I know we all want to demonize these parents.  But it’s possible these parents are living a nightmare with this kid, it’s possible they were doing almost everything they possibly could we th limited means.  This kid is seriously disturbed based on what he’s said and done.  The gun was a huge miscalculation on their part, but this child sounds, frankly, diabolical.

The teacher said to the principal get this kid out of my class.  From now on teachers should be allowed to demand that administrators remove violent kids for the entire day, at a minimum.  I hope the teacher unions fight for this.  We will be destroying our public school system if we don’t protect teachers and other students from dangerous kids.  [/quote]

As a teacher reading up on this story I find it infuriating that admin ignored multiple warnings that this kid had a gun. The lesson I take from this? Trust no one and call the police if a weapon is seen or suspected. [/quote]

Not a teacher. I find it infuriating too. What kind of bothers me also is this.  [b]If you believed a kid had a gun and posed a threat, why wouldn’t you check their pockets?  [/b]I’m not victim blaming. Just trying to understand. [/quote]

If you think someone is armed and they've already made threats, getting close enough to search them is very risky especially if you're in a room full of other potential victims and there's no one/ no adult to help you. There are a lot of stories going around but I bet the teacher did ask the student to empty his pockets or asked him if she could check his pockets right before he shot her. If the teacher had searched the student and found no weapon, she'd be vilified for putting her hands on a child.

I agree that any child who is violent enough to cause bodily injury to staff or other students or is repeatedly making threats should be removed from the general education setting. It doesn't take 6 weeks of data to tell you there needs to be a change of placement after the first or certainly the second incident.[/quote]

I agree with you. The issue is a lack of resources. There might be only one school in their area that takes kids like this at his age, and if they are full...there is literally nowhere to send him. I have seen kids in fcps sit out of school for over a year waiting for an opening. The ER likely won't admit him, or he will have to board there while they look for an open bed for a 6 year old (only a handful of beds in the whole state). Then insurance might not agree to pay for more than a day or two to switch meds.[/quote]

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