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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”.   They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies.  Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.  [/quote]

Schools have always had the responsibility of creating good citizens.

The question is, do good citizens support and [/b]improve society[b] or are good citizens change agents who, as another poster put it, dismantle the patriarchy?

I know what my answer is.  And some posters have stated or implied their answer.  [/quote]

“Improving society” is tearing down racism. 
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When will we know when this has been achieved?[/quote]

Where there is more equality in outcomes.

I.e. in incomes, wealth, health, rates of incarceration, etc.

I understand everyone freaks out over the “equality of outcomes” phrasing in a school context but in the broader context, so long as average white income is x% higher average black income, women earn 70 cents on the dollar as men, life expectancies and incarceration rates are wildly divergent … when those thing are more equalized, we have achieved equity. [/quote]

Some of those statistics are problems that need to be fixed but others aren't.  I work 70% hours as DH, I shouldn't be paid the same as he is.  Also, are you including incarceration rates between men and women or only between races?[/quote]

sure- but you should be paid the same as the guy who works the same hours as you. There are some industries where this is true and some where it is not. Also, maybe you choose to work 70% less or chose a profession that was not as in demand/equally renumarative but a lot of women and people of color are forced into these choices not b/c of aptitude but b/c there is a system in place that uses race and gender as. proxy for caste. [/quote]

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