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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Conveniently, as if I did it purposely?

Hip hop culture isn't brought up very often in the discussions I witness, no. Perhaps it comes up on message boards that are geared towards hip hop fans. Those kinds of boards are also more populated by male posters, and males of every race are more likely to be against same-sex marriage than women.

Nearly everyone who is against it in the discussions I witness is against it for religious reasons. These people also tend to be against hip hop and rap music, too, even if it's hip hop with a religious message. They're extremely conservative.

Educational level, political affiliation, and religiosity have all been found to be reliable predictors of a person's opposition/support of same-sex marriage. While I'm not denying that there are issues of homophobia and masculinity among the culture, I'd be interested if you could provide credible information that shows that those the masculinity issue is as big of a predictor (or even nearly as big of a predictor) among the voting population.  It is a huge problem that needs to be addressed, but it is being addressed, just not by everyone. There are issues with sexism, too. [/quote]

Hip hop culture is just one of the manifestations.  I brought it up because it is something that people recognize outside of the black community.  I didn't say *JUST* hip hop culture.

I would say that your message boards are probably mostly straight people of higher SES.  They don't understand the experience of black gay males in poorer neighborhoods.    I already posted several books/authors on the subject of black homophobia, and I'm sure they got ignored, so until I hear someone say they checked any of it out I'll pass on more proof.[/quote]

Sorry I just realized there are two different threads on the same topic, and I posted to one of the other ones.  Here:

You can google black gay support groups and see for yourself. Or read "The Greatest Taboo: Homosexuality in Black Communities" by Delroy Constantine-Simms and Skip Gates, where a few essays in particular will go a long way in this discussion. Or read something by bell hooks (sic) or Eric Brandt.  If you want to understand how homophobia in hip hop is related to culture and economics watch the documentary by Byron Hurt  http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/hiphop/film.htm  Hip hop does reflect some aspects of the general culture.  At its root is the dilemma that many black males face of finding a way to prove your masculinity in a society where economic opportunity is lacking.  Unfortunately rejection of homosexuality is a side effect of this.   Now obviously this is not the experience of every black person in America, but it's a factor for many.  Here is a short video, also by Byron Hurt, which discusses black masculinity in this regard:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOQZqCGHctE  Or if you really want to do some reading, here is a bibliography on black masculinity including the historical and economic challenges to black male identity: http://www.library.illinois.edu/afx/Masculinity.htm

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