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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How did you raise a person without the discernment to see this guy for what he is? Not snarking you. I have an 8 year old and want to do better.[/quote]

You’re absolutely snarking me. So far you’re not doing better.  [/quote]

It’s a valid question IMO. My kid would never in a million years support this sexist charlatan. He recognizes that the way he talks about and treats women is vile. What values did you instill if he listens to anything that misogynist says and thinks it is true?[/quote]

OP here. I wasn't engaging in the posts above but I will respond to this.

I have 2 other ds who think he is awful. I have one who is very into him - mostly the get-rich bullshit he espouses but the anti-woman rhetoric is also being absorbed.  I have always instilled into all 3 of them the values that are antithetical to all Tate stands for.  I don't know what else to tell you. I am pretty heartbroken right now but I can't dwell on that because I am working hard to take the step to get him to extricate himself from this and it be his idea, bc that is the only way it is going to happen.

His dad and his dad's family are conservative so he has grown up exposed to that kind of thinking as well, but none of them would ever condone any kind of Tate way of thinking. My ds is also down this rabbit hole with 2 close friends so there is a huge peer pressure element too.

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