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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. There is actually a shortage of immigrant labor in this country right now- we don’t have enough people to work as home health care aides, various jobs along the food supply chain, etc. There is no overpopulation or complicatedly large immigrant population.[/quote]

This is a 'chicken or the egg' argument that is only valid if there is a 0% unemployment rate for legal US residents. Is there a shortage of immigrant labor because Americans refuse to, say, wash dishes in a restaurant, or because businesses have learned that they can hire illegal immigrants for $4/hr undercutting American labor? If we had a secure border, companies would have to pay going rate to American workers creating a large number of jobs with reasonable pay. It also is insulting to the immigrants themselves as it is basically arguing that their work is worth less then Americans.

[quote=Anonymous] 2. Immigrants, both documented and undocumented, committed significantly less crime than native born Americans. If you want to see reduction or harmful crime, look to gun control, not immigration policy.[/quote]

Studies regarding this are typically flawed as undocumented immigrants are less likely to respond to such surveys and are less likely to be open and honest about their immigration status. It also ignores the fact that while illegal immigrants may not be committing crimes at a higher level, the very act of being in the country is a crime. So it is impossible that the rate of crime among illegal immigrants is anything under 100%.

Also, honestly, the bigger issue is that while the immigrants themselves are often perfectly fine people, the whole apparatus used to bring them in is often tied to drug gangs and distribution, that is often tied to the same passages and trips across the border.

[quote=Anonymous] 3. There is no ‘immigration line’ for these people. Read up on the different ways to get a visa- there is no path for many migrants. Yet, we depend on their labor.[/quote]

There is a line. But like every other country in the world, who can get through that line is dependent on a variety of factors (Employment, educational background, credentials, family status, etc), so not everyone who wants to live in the US realistically has the option to do so. This is the same with every first world country. Just because you want to move to the US doesnt mean you can, and I dont see why that is a bad thing.

[quote=Anonymous] 4. There are ecological and cultural reasons not to have border walls. Again, easily googleable.

I feel sorry for you, OP. You hold so many mistaken beliefs and they are causing you undue worry. Please try to educate yourself before falling for far right tropes. The ignorance in your post is painful.

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Ecological concerns can be mitigated against, and not having a wall is causing its own cultural crisis on the border so I cant see that as valid reason not to secure our border.[/quote]

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