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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m an immigrant and I support a wall although I think the most effective things would be to remove birthright citizenship, make it a felony with mandatory jail time to hire someone who doesn’t have proper work authorization, and completely remove all government benefits unless you’re a citizen of this country (and yes, that means schools too).

All the people who say, “but we need those people to pick our fruit!” are completely unserious people because it’s very easy to allow more temporary work visas (for properly vetted people) to do this work rather than letting whoever just walk across our border and decide to stay here.[/quote]

The majority of people in the United States illegally are individuals who have overstayed legal visas. You are proposing expanding the number of legal visas. Won’t that inherently raise the number of people in the U.S. illegally? [/quote]
Indeed.

I will repeat: the only way to curtail illegal immigration is to cut off the demand, then the supply will dry up.

Illegal immigrants know that someone will give them a job here. That is why they come. I don't blame poor people for wanting a job, and making a difficult, harsh, scary journey to get that low paying jobs. Many Americans have ancestors who did this as well.

I do blame the people who hire illegal immigrants. Obviously, they do this because the profit they make is much higher than the puny fees that they are assessed if they are caught having hired them.   It's too tempting for them to not hire them.

So, make it not worth it. The penalty for hiring illegal immigrants should be a lot higher. Right now the penalty is anywhere from $100 to $3000 per.

Make it higher:

$50K/per - first time offense
$100k/per - second offense
$500k/per  and prison sentence - third and subsequent offenses
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+1

And this is what the GOP and their deep pocketed donors will never allow because they and their scummy party rely on illegal immigrants for a number of reasons. [/quote]

True - neither side will do anything for these reasons. Go read the schools forums. I can't walk into England, for instance, and get free schooling for my kids.[/quote]

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