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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm an R and I am against it because the ROI just isnt there. It isnt an effective countermeasure to stop illegal crossings.

If a wall is politically necessary, it should be built on the southern border of Mexico. Its a much smaller border, and can be built cheaper.[/quote]
+1 by and large, most of the illegal immigrants now a days crossing the border are from Central/S. America. Build it in MX. That's a great idea.  I wouldn't mind paying for that, actually.

And I agree on the ROI.  It's a boondogle. Have you seen how much the wall that Trump built costs? It did not go out for bid, and the contract went under multiple cost revisions within the first few months. It was a yuuuuge waste of taxpayer $$, but I guess it MAGA feel good.

-former R

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/27/border-wall-texas-cost-rising-trump/

[quote]On the same day in May 2019, the Army Corps of Engineers awarded a pair of contracts worth $788 million to replace 83 miles of fence along the southwest border.

The projects were slated to be completed in January 2020, the Corps said then. Four months into this year, however, the government increased the value of the contracts by more than $1 billion, without the benefit of competitive bidding designed to keep costs low to taxpayers.

Within a year of the initial award, the value of the two contracts had more than tripled, to over $3 billion, even though the length of the fence the companies were building had only grown by 62%, to 135 miles. The money is coming from military counter-narcotics funding.

Those contract spikes were dramatic, but not isolated. A ProPublica/Texas Tribune review of federal spending data shows more than 200 contract modifications, at times awarded within just weeks or months after the original contracts, have increased the cost of the border wall project by billions of dollars since late 2017. This is particularly true this year, in the run-up to next week’s election. The cost of supplemental agreements and change orders alone — at least $2.9 billion — represents about a quarter of all the money awarded and more than what Congress originally appropriated for wall construction in each of the last three years.

Yet an accounting of border wall contracts awarded during his presidency shows that his administration has failed to protect taxpayer interests or contain costs and stifled competition among would-be builders, experts say. In all, Trump’s wall costs about five times more per mile than fencing built under the Bush and Obama administrations.[/quote]

I'm guessing a lot of that money went to firms that lobbied hard for him.[/quote]

Yes, exactly. The Mexicans have the same interest as we do to prevent border crossings from their southern border. As much as we complain about Mexico "allowing" migrants at our border, they complain that they are a cut-through for people to get to the US. We could solve the issue more effectively together. And a lot cheaper.  [/quote]

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