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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The driver of the van who killed Allie Hart came to a complete stop. Then he proceeded to start through the intersection and Allie came down the sidewalk and without stopping continued into the street, where she and her adult did not, in fact, have the right of way.

It is tragic beyond belief. But the driver STOPPED and then commenced to drive thru a clear crosswalk.  [/quote]

What speed was he going - I mean cmon - if he just started up from a complete stop this would not have resulted in death.[/quote]

There are a couple of scenarios I could envisage where the driver could have truly been not at fault. These would include her traveling very fast across the crosswalk, hitting the side of the vehicle, and being caught underneath the vehicle. But we should not have to speculate. Whatever happened, the release of the full investigatory report would provide a basis for the city to make changes to road regulations that would reduce the chances of similar accidents. Why, after 15 months, do we not have a report?[/quote]

Because (1) the police generally don't make them public (2) in any case, police reports are about findings of legal fault, not about street design.[/quote]

Police reports are absolutely not about findings of legal fault. That's the role of the courts.

Police reports are about collecting evidence at the scene. [/quote]

Nope. I've looked at a ton of police investigations of fatal crashes. They're about establishing whether or not someone in the crash broke the law. Plus, the absolutely easiest thing for the police to do is to determine that the person who was killed was at fault.[/quote]

This is me still waiting for criminal charges to be filed against the unnamed driver who ran over Waldon Adams AND Rhonda Whitaker by a pickup truck... over a year and a half ago... on a one-way road... in a park...  on a Saturday morning when the park is full of cyclists and pedestrians using the road.

This is me still waiting for criminal charges to be filed against the unnamed driver who ran over Nina Larson with her SUV in a crosswalk after rolling through an intersection on Columbia Road in dense AdMo.

This is me still waiting for criminal charges to be filed against the unnamed driver who ran over Michael Gordon with his dump truck in a crosswalk after rolling through an intersection on Rhode Island Avenue.

This is me still waiting for criminal charges to be filed against the unnamed driver who ran through a light killing Michael Randall first and then Charles Jackson next to Minnesota Ave and Nannie Helen Burroughs Avenue NE.

Sadly, could just continue to repeat this over and over and over and over.

Get the point?

If a car is stolen and kills a well-known cycling advocate, then charges will be filed and sentencing will result in... 8.5 years in prison?  For pleading down 2nd degree murder committed during a felony fleeing on busy Florida Avenue in DC?? https://dcwitness.org/bikers-family-asks-for-harsher-sentence/

If a car isn't stolen but the driver was "just running late to work so cheated by running a red light" on Constitution freaking Avenue and (by a miracle charges were even filed), then the sentence is a whooping 18-months.  https://wtop.com/dc/2019/01/md-man-sentenced-in-killing-of-beloved-cyclist-near-national-mall/

Give me a break.

~40,000 people die every year on average because of traffic accidents for the last like 100 years basically in the US.  40,000 people per year.[/quote]

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