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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none. [/quote] First gen college here, as an aside. But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity. Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores. It seems to me more info is good rather than bad. [/quote] One thing I’ve heard is that it’s hard for admission officers to “unsee” bad scores. They may love a Black applicant with good grades and recs, but when they see the 1000 on the SAT, it’s just really hard to forget it. Then, they end up with fewer Black kids than they had desired in the class overall. If they never see the score at all, it’s a lot easier to admit the student. [/quote] But why shouldn't the score be considered? If a score of 1000 is lower than the school would like, [b]in a competitive application cycle why should that score be okay for a black student and not for students of a different race?[/b] I believe in diversity, truly, but I don't like how colleges have to twist themselves into pretzels and make themselves blind to objective data points just to prove how diverse they are. It reaches a point where it's reverse racism and doesn't help anyone.[/quote] FYI schools have NEVER EVER said they use test scores and GPA to only choose the applicants with the highest of the two. Schools are building a community. A group of that community are competing on GPA and test score. But for other individuals, their contribution to the community is something else the college admissions "see" in that person. You should not assume this is only race. It's certainly also athletes....but it could be many many other things that catch the admissions about a person. So in these cases, they may use the test to see if this individual can also succeed among the others who are competing on GPA/test. [/quote]
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