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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why would anyone undertake such a study?[/quote]

More evidence that the achievement gap starts in the home, not the school system.[/quote]

This is probably the bigger issue if Asian's (and some others like us) supplement at home and put our kids in more academically geared preschools.  [b]Maybe we should start looking at the play based preschools that are not preparing kids for K.[/b][/quote]

:lol: Oh you guys! Always cutting your nose to spite your face, no?  Make everything and everyone dumber.  It will not prevent Asian-American parents from teaching their kids at home.  Asian-Americans are educated parents. They will at least pass on their own skills and knowledge to their children.

Achievement gap is a  symptom of a huge problem. The problem is that the home life of an underperforming student is typically not conducive to academic achievement.  Achievement gap has nothing to with Asian-Americans.  That is not the problem of Asian-Americans. It is a problem that Asians did not create, did not contribute, and can not solve.  I don't understand why Asian-Americans are targeted because others are failing?  Can you explain to me the logic of that? [/quote]

Asians are often highly represented in magnet schools and academic competitions.  There are people who want representation, and Asians make it harder to achieve it.  Hence the hostility.  It's in-group/out-group behavior.

[b]Some of it's also cultural.  For whatever reason, there's a disdain for nerds and strivers in this country, and many Asians fit that description.  Sports is okay.  Not academics.[/b]

But you're right.  It's not really a problem Asians created.[/quote]

This is a big factor. (Also the general anti-intellectualism in this country.) For example, my child has been taking classes for the past few years at AOPS. At pick-up time, the students who stream out of the building are 95% of East Asian and South Asian heritage. It’s a priority extracurricular for those families. 
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I challenge you to take a kid who does not have the brain power and interest in Math to sit and do AOPS.  My Asian-American STEM magnet kid has been a straight A student who scored a 1600 in SAT. 5 in AP Calc BC in 10th grade etc.  He was never able to sit and do Kumon or AOPS etc because it was not his cup of tea. He is capable in Math but he does not like Math more than anything else.  For the 95% of Asians doing AOPS, it is something to do with the fact that it is a self-selecting crowd.  A whole lot more Asian-Americans do not do AOPS.  However, the fact that they are swimmers, tennis player, musicians, golfers, painters, debaters, martial artists ...all of these things are deliberately disregarded.

The problem for most people is mainly that Asian-Americans take each challenge and overcome it.  A decade ago, Asian-Americans were good in Math but lagging behind in English. Now they excel in ELA and FL as well.

By having a civil war against Asian-Americans in academics, USA is harming itself.  It is not as if other countries will also start NOT educating their children in solidarity with underperformers in USA.  [/quote]

DP who also had the only white kid in AOPS. Agree, it is a stereotype that all Asians grind at Math. But at the same time it is true that most math enrichment programs are heavily Asian around here! That said the point of AOPS is not that the kids there love math and eat it up like candy. It’s simply to give your kid extra math so they are better at it. And that absolutely works, whatever the level or interest of the kid. [/quote]

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