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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trying to time the bottom is a fool’s errand. That being said, we can always make an educated estimate. The average annualized S&P 500 return since 1957 has been 11.88%. The two most significant recent bottoms were in March 2009 (approximately 13.5 years ago at 677) and then again in March 2020 (approximately 2.5 years ago at 2237). The 2009 bottom propagated forward to today would have put the S&P 500 at: [i]677 * (1.1188^13.5) = 3081[/i] The 2020 bottom propagated forward to today would have put the S&P 500 at: [i]2237 * (1.1188^2.5) = 2962[/i] These are pretty close, as one might expect from legitimate corrections, with the average being 3021. So, my guess is that a reasonable estimate for the S&P 500 bottom today is around 3021 and, therefore, that we still have room to fall. But, the S&P 500 historically grows at a rate of about 11.88% YoY or 0.93% MoM. With each passing month, our estimate for the S&P 500 bottom needs to increase, perhaps as follows: 10/22: 3021 * 1.0093^0 = 3021 11/22: 3021 * 1.0093^1 = 3049 12/22: 3021 * 1.0093^2 = 3077 01/23: 3021 * 1.0093^3 = 3106 02/23: 3021 * 1.0093^4 = 3135 03/23: 3021 * 1.0093^5 = 3164 04/23: 3021 * 1.0093^6 = 3194 05/23: 3021 * 1.0093^7 = 3223 06/23: 3021 * 1.0093^8 = 3253 07/23: 3021 * 1.0093^9 = 3283 08/23: 3021 * 1.0093^10 = 3314 09/23: 3021 * 1.0093^11 = 3345 10/23: 3021 * 1.0093^12 = 3376 11/23: 3021 * 1.0093^13 = 3407 12/23: 3021 * 1.0093^14 = 3439 When the actual S&P 500 intersects the estimated trajectory of the above, I suspect we’ll be at or near the bottom. The sooner the correction is over, the better. [/quote] In theory this is at least educated but has no relevance to the market now or in the future. No analysis knows when the market will bottom..that is why investing is a long game[/quote] Incorrect. This analysis is highly correlated with current market conditions. To suggest that it isn’t is to ignore the impact of future earnings estimates on society’s perceptions of appropriately valued stock prices. You can certainly dollar cost average your way to long-term gains, but it likely won’t be until 2027 that the S&P 500 regains it’s previous peak value of 4819. Meanwhile, those that liquidated into cash when both stocks and bonds were [i]obviously[/i] overvalued and then followed the above analytical recipe will have gained 60% more wealth than their DCA counterparts. [/quote] Keep drinking your kool-aid. No "analyst" has any clue what the market will do in the next month, let alone in 2027. If you were the ONE person in the world who knows, then what are you doing commenting on a blog. There are thousands of analysts that spend all day trying to identify this and they are wrong the vast majority of the time: https://fortune.com/2022/10/13/best-minds-on-wall-street-stock-market-predictions/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/business/omicron-stock-market-forecasts.html Keep thinking you're the guy! For 99.99% of investors, investing regularly regardless of what is happening is the best way to build weatlh[/quote] I know your stupidity is intimidated by the math. Keep following the masses while my superior intellect rakes in the profits. [/quote] Lol the masses try to time the market and suck at investing. They also think they are way smarter than they actually are.. [/quote]
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