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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] There are no tax issues or anything at play if it's less than 90 days, people! OP will be on a waiver, not even a tourist visa, for most countries where OP might want to go that also have a great internet connection. Check the internet connection, OP. That's the most critical thing. We spent a few months in France last year, and the most picturesque, non-urban locations may not have the wifi you want. It's the first thing we clarified with every AirBnB we wanted to rent. [/quote] This is just wrong. Completely wrong, as are all the responses from PPs saying that there are no issues with being a digital nomad. Ignoring the laws and having no repercussions doesn’t make something legal. For most countries, you cannot work - even for a foreign employer- while on a tourist visa. Yes, laws are largely ignored by Americans but tourists visas aren’t meant to allow you work and residence. The tax implications for the US employer are quite real. Again, often ignored and difficult to track but still applicable -immigration/employment atty[/quote] Americans don't need tourist visas for most countries and can stay up to 90 days. My company encourages working abroad for up to 10wks a year. We have a Global Work Advisor who you need to work through but I have never had my request denied. We just do EU countries. This is a completely US based company. [/quote] This is what annoys me about this thread: the entitled, arrogant American response. I know PP believes this, most Americans do. They completely believe that it is their RIGHT to go to any country and stay and work on a TOURIST visa because - well - they're rich, white Americans with enough disposable income to allow them to do it. Just so you know, tourist visas are only permissible for tourist activities during that 90 day period. They do not encompass work, even if it is virtual for a foreign based employer. What I find crazy about this thread is all the PPs who insist that they can go work virtually in a foreign country as tourists. But just imagine for a hot second if Mexicans, Syrians, Liberians, Nigerians, or other nationality were to dare enter the US as tourists and claim their right to work as a digital nomad. It's considered a violation of status and ground for revocation of that tourist visa. In most cases, work (of any kind) is a violation of the terms of your tourist visa - particularly in visa waiver status. Yes, there are some countries that allow it but you must do the research on that. For example, I think some Caribbean nations were permitting it explicitly to draw tourism dollars. There are some EU nations that offer a specific "digital nomad" style visa. Italy is one of them. you must apply for that visa specifically and submit evidence of your current US based income. This will grant the type of work authorization that would be needed for a virtual worker. It does not grant work authorization in country for domestic employers. The point is that Americans think they can do anything at any time where the reality is that there are laws that you should be looking to for guidance. We just like to ignore them. Because 'Merica. [/quote] While being completely dismissive you are also completely wrong. From the EU website: "Remote workers only need to get a digital nomad visa if they will stay longer than the time permitted with a tourist visa. In this case, they have to meet the digital nomad visa requirements, which normally includes proof of funds. It’s important to know that neither a digital nomad visa or a tourist visa allows the holder to be employed by a local company. To be employed by a company in Europe, non-EU citizens need a national work permit or EU Blue Card (if eligible)." [/quote] PP. Not wrong at all. Tourist visa and/or visa waiver does not permit work authorization in country. The nationality of your employer does not determine whether work authorization is required. It is your physical presence. So all the PPs saying that they are working for US companies are wrong. That is irrelevant. It is your physical presence in that foreign country that governs. Again, Americans should at least pretend to care about local laws. If you are going on a brief two week trip where you will be a tourist but taking your laptop, you are likely not in violation of any status. However, if your purpose is to go to a foreign country, work and remain for months, you are in violation of your tourist visa parameters. Tax regs are a separate issue. [/quote]
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