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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Purposefully keeping people of one religion out because you don't like them is very different than keeping racial balances even in your cohort to better achieve your mission.  To insinuate that they are the same is ignorant and insulting.

One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.

If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up.  If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop.  Regardless of what race it is.  Is that racism then?

Under-represented is the key.  For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.

I understand it [i]seems [/i]unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.[/quote]

CalTech is color blind and mostly merit based.
Asian: 35%
White: 23%
Hispanic: 22%
Mixed 9%
International: 8%
Black: 3%

Male: 55%
Female: 45%

Females and minorities in the school are extremely proud because everybody knows they got no extra help 
There's no problem with this as long as it was fair and everyone got same opportunity as an individual. 
This is way to go for higher education. No need for artificial racial quota.   [/quote]

Caltech stopped being wholly merit based years ago. You can track the peak, and then decline in Asian admissions, and the differential in grad rates by race is huge -- 96% for asians, 91% for whites, 76% for hispanic, 50% for blacks -- which suggests that there's a difference in the level of preparation or ability of the incoming students in a way readily explanable by admissions having a thumb on the scales.[/quote]

Just like Berkeley - Berkeley is legally banned from giving blacks/Hispanics racial preferences in admissions but but they still do it anyway. [/quote]

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