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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most people don’t love themselves all that much. That’s too bad.

Most people love their kids unconditionally, even when they being jerks.

Most people love their spouses conditionally and don’t take into consideration that their marriage will continue long after the kids leave the house.

And Yes, most female identifying parents put their own needs and desires second to the needs and desires of their children. Male identifying parents do it to, but with less frequency or amount of sacrifice. Is this done out of love? Sometimes. But sometimes it’s guilt, adhering to societal expectations, or convenience / expediency.

Do I love my children more than myself? No. I don’t think I do. Do I give up time I’d rather be napping or working on hobbies to do things they enjoy? Yes. Because it benefits me to raise happy, well adjusted future adults. Do I sometimes give my 5 yr old the last donut even though I wanted it? Yes, but not because I love him more than myself, but because I value the peace of not arguing more than than enjoyment of the pastry. [/quote]

Agree.

I also think that as children grow into adults  then the lack of love for oneself starts to manifest as narcissism. [/quote]

I don’t buy it that all narcs are self loathing.  They don’t think that way. They don’t see others needs, o ot carry on about themselves and their immediate needs. And, of course, how to manipulate others into doing what they want for themselves.  They are not ever sitting around alone wallowing about their perceived weaknesses and insecurities; they don’t have the self awareness to think that way whatsoever. They think they’re great, and you’re crazy.[/quote]

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