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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.[/quote]

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon. [/quote]

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”[/quote]

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.[/quote]

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP![/quote]

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is. [/quote]

I had to evacuate my class many times last year. I also had to re arrange furniture (climbing), hide things (throwing) and took risks using my computer, smart board, etc on a daily basis.

My whole class schedule had to be restructured and no normal things could be done well because of the constant support and 1:1 this one child needed. There are no other human bodies to help. It takes months to get any sort of IEP in place but you can’t do an IEP based on class behavior alone.

It was a very tiring year. And I had many other challenges on top of the main one.

[b]Education really is brought down to the neediest. I don’t say that in a mean way but entire classes suffer because of one student because that’s just how the system is these days. [/quote][/b]

So very true. So much time is wasted on the few. I wish parents knew how much time is wasted on a few students. And it is wasted time since those few students often cannot be moved out of the classroom. I often take my entire class to a book room (basically a large closet) when it is clear that we won't be moving back into the classroom anytime soon. I've brought in a carpet and entire class sets of supplies.[/quote]

It sounds odd to have to evacuate or move into closets. Why does this occur? If one child misbehaves, don't they get sent to the principal? Why does the class have to evacuate instead? Sorry if this is a remedial question but I haven't heard this occurring in DC'c class so I'm puzzled.[/quote]

I could write a really long message about this, but this is the gist… We can’t simply send a child to the office because they’re being annoying and disrupting class. That is no longer a reason - for the past 10-15 years. Admin has made it very clear that we are to send them to the office, because interrupts THEIR learning What happens is the child becomes kind of annoying/disruptive to emotionally and physically destructive in about 10-15 seconds. So at that point our choice is to evacuate the room. The downfall is very, very quick (unfortunately).[/quote]

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