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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The book notes 5 star UCLA's strongest programs as: Computer Science, Engineering, English, Fine Arts, Mathematics, Performing Arts, Political Science, and Psychology. UCLA seems like an interesting community. Overall, this college guidebook loves the UC system with 4 UCs receiving the second highest academic rating (4.5 stars) and one (UCLA) receiving a full 5 star rating for academics. Many seem to underestimate the quality of the University of Virginia. Univ. of Virginia is an outstanding university. When I wrote the first two posts in this thread, I thought that there would be strong reaction to rating the academics of UC-Berkeley the same as for Boston University and the Univ. of Florida, and Boston College. To really stir things up, I will list the SLACs that earned a 4.5 star academic rating (same as UC-Berkeley) : Smith College, Wesleyan University, Bucknell University, Bates College, Univ. of Richmond, Scripps College, Colgate University, Colby College, Colorado College, College of the Holy Cross, Lafayette College, Union College, Vassar College, & Grinnell College. Th three authors of the book all have earned doctorates--two PhDs and an EdD.[/quote] The thing is, a bachelor's degree is just not a big deal. Nearly any school has adequate resources to teach bachelors level material. If a student can find engaged faculty and peers and access to the programs that they are interested in, they can do great from anywhere. While I would never advise a kid to choose BU or UVA over Cal for a PhD program in most sciences, they can absolutely get just as good of an undergraduate education at any of these schools, and many, many others.[/quote] Regarding the assertion that "a bachelor's degree is just not a big deal", my response is that it can be depending upon the particular school and upon the particular major.[/quote] There are certain majors and certain schools which are "a big deal" at the undergraduate level. My position is that if accepted to any of these schools, one should do everything within reason to attend: Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, CalTech, Carnegie Mellon University, Harvey Mudd College, USMA at West Point, USNA at Annapolis, & the USAFA at Colorado Springs. [/quote] LOL wtf remove Carnegie Mellon University, Harvey Mudd College, USMA at West Point, USNA at Annapolis, & the USAFA at Colorado Springs CMU is not it exept for CS. only handful of people want to go to the military places and lifstyle [/quote] It is reasonable to assume that those who apply to the service academies and are accepted want to go there as evidenced by their yield rates. Your suggestion to remove CMU & Harvey Mudd from the list suggests that you should examine further the graduates career results from both schools.[/quote] CS contributed a lot for the outcome, hence I said except for CS. Other than thatn, its not automacit go to school at all. Not even a T20 school.[/quote] I agree in part, but CMU is definitely a top 20 school in all respects and for all disciplines. My partial agreement is that the CS salaries distort the overall median and average starting salaries for undergraduates. What is the percentage of undergrads who major in a STEM discipline ?[/quote]
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