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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That article was heartbreaking.  [b]The root of the problem seems to be that these communities use their power as a voting block to pressure politicians to cave to their demands.[/b]  I was wondering if the Governor of NY could put the schools into receivership and turn the power of oversight to the New York State Department of Education.  Since that body is not elected, they could make demands of the schools without the fear of losing their jobs.  The fact that we are allowing young people to leave school without a working knowledge of English, the language of employment in the United States, is criminal. We have mandatory school attendance laws in the country because we have a shared belief that through education every citizen can gain the skills to become self-supporting.  These schools are not fulfilling that important role. [/quote]

It's more complicated.  They are in NY and they vote democratic.  Given how blue NY is, they are not that crucial to the mayor or the governor.  Yes, maybe some city council member or state senator get sacked, but then they are entitled to representation, aren't they?

The problem is that they don't fit neatly into the popular narrative.  It's not that they do not educate their boys, they teach them some pretty complicated stuff that has no connection to mainstream American life and is not taught in English.  It's hard to crack down on that without starting on a slippery slope to something decidedly un-American.  Unlike in some other countries, it's not considered acceptable here to say that everyone must speak English, or everyone must be employable or self-supporting.

The girls, btw, are doing better because they are not considered worthy to learn the hard stuff, so they study math and English.  According to that article, the girls perform about the same as the low income kids from public schools, which makes sense.  Also I am pretty sure they had zero prep for those tests, although even low income public schools do some.  [/quote]

They do not vote Democratic. Orthodox, typically vote Republican.  [/quote]
Thank you. The Hasidim vote 100% Republican. Check Kiryas Joel in NY or Lakewood in NJ. 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/2020-election-map.html[/quote]

Presidential election only.  Locally they vote Democratic.   They split their votes for whomever does them favors.  One of Trump’s first acts as president was to pardon an orthodox man who ran a chicken processing plant in the Midwest that employed mostly illegal immigrants and was convicted of violating labor laws and fraud, if I remember correctly.    Locally they have the democrats in their pockets, up to and including the governor.   [/quote]

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