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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Financial services and institutions should simply make the names of anyone who purchased a gun or gun related item available for all to see on a public database. Let their neighbors and everyone else know they bought a gun. Then people can make use of red flag laws to petition courts to have those guns confiscated. We have the resources in place. People just need to make use of them. [/quote]

Criminals always use their Amex cards to purchase guns. /s 
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It might not work for criminals who probably pay cash for black market weapons, but it would be a useful tool for removing guns from the general public.

For example, if the name and address of someone down the street from you who bought a gun was posted on a public database published by financial institutions, you would know that person was a danger to society because they have a gun. You can then go to the court in your locality and petition for a red flag order to be served against that person who just bought that gun. The police will serve a warrant and seize the gun (and any other present) and conduct an investigation into that person. Even if the guns are eventually returned, you can simply file another red flag petition and start the whole process over. If everyone did this to even one person they knew who owned a gun, we could essentially eliminate guns in a few years. [/quote]

This is a brilliant strategy. What would we need to do to red flag gun nutters we know now and those who are exposed later?[/quote]

Some states allow for anyone to petition for a red flag order against anyone else. Other states restrict it to only family, domestic partners, etc.

If you live in a state that allows anyone to file, then make use of it. File orders against people you know have guns. If you don’t personally know anyone with a gun, find membership roles for weapon/violence related groups. There are many such databases on the web. Do a search. If you’re really activist minded, go to gun range or gun store and make note of the tags on the vehicles those people are driving. Some states still allow you to look up owner info by car tags. File orders against those people if the red flag law in your state allows for that. For “reason”, simply state “fear and intimidation”, rather than anything specific, which could prove troublesome for you. Stay vague, and let the investigators handle it.

If you don’t live in a state that allows any person to file tor a red flag order, lobby your lawmakers to modify existing laws to allow anyone other than restricted-persons to file for red flag orders.

If you live in a state with no red flag law…. move. [/quote]

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